AJ set the standard, Don’t Count out Wilder in Trilogy finale

[Thuglife Nelo]

It’s heavyweight boxing so nobody can be totally written off.

But realistically, he has almost no chance of beating Fury. He cannot compete with him in ANY aspect except one punch power. A top level fighter like Fury or other top fighters don’t lose to fighters who only have a punchers chance.

Wilder’s best chance was when he fought a 50% Fury and still couldn’t finish the job.

On saturday he fought the real Tyson Fury and he got annihilated and it’ll likely be a bigger annihilation next time

But I would look at it like this:

Fury 1 was way more dynamic and elusive, and Wilder actually had defensive skills in that fight and offensively different.

The second fight WAS WAY MORE RUDIMENTARY and Basic for both fighters it seems surreal. Tyson looked average yet Wilder looked absolutely horrible...

So what gives. The Trilogy finale could be even more different. What if Wilder is more relaxed and focused while Fury comes in overzealous and loses rounds?

I’ll favor Fury again, just sayin

[TMLT87]

Never fully count Wilder out because of that right hand, but this is not the same as AJ/Ruiz. Wilder is to all intents and purposes 0-2 now, hes won like 4 rounds of the combined 19. His opponent fought two completely different fights against him and both gameplans worked well.

[deathofaclown]

Part of AJ success in the rematch was the failure of Ruiz to compete at the highest level that a HW boxer should comply to.
Ruiz was fat, did not properly trained and partied for weeks.

And that was fight number 2. Wilder was stopped in fight number 2.

Wilder's only chance apart from his right hand was to learn some technique but thats a far cry in this stage or age. He should switch trainers at least.

Yeah, it’s hard to compare the scenarios and fights


Ruiz is completely useless you let him get close. All AJ had to do was a simple game-plan of don’t engage and don’t let him get close. I give AJ full credit for carrying out the game plan. He had all the physical advantages over Ruiz to carry out the game plan. I wasn’t sure if he could stick to the plan for 12 rounds but Ruiz made it much easier by not even training. He may as well have just handed the belts back. AJ was barely even made to work to carry out his tactics.

In the AJ v Ruiz rematch, you could think of tactical scenarios of how both guys could win it, no matter who you thought would win.

With Wilder v Fury, there’s really nothing in Wilder’s skill set that you can use to make an educated opinion on how he wins, apart from a hail mary punch.

[ThunderFists]

Fury set the standard in 2015 when he dethroned wladimir when he was a 7-1 underdog in his backyard. What he did to wilder is his magnus opus , his career defining fight. Wilder has nothing for fury, a 50% fury beat wilder put that into perspective

[deathofaclown]

But I would look at it like this:

Fury 1 was way more dynamic and elusive, and Wilder actually had defensive skills in that fight and offensively different.

The second fight WAS WAY MORE RUDIMENTARY and Basic for both fighters it seems surreal. Tyson looked average yet Wilder looked absolutely horrible...

So what gives. The Trilogy finale could be even more different. What if Wilder is more relaxed and focused while Fury comes in overzealous and loses rounds?

I’ll favor Fury again, just sayin

Fury looked average?

I don’t think you quite understood what he was doing in there, the intricate things. It was a very high level display of how to command a boxing ring and fight aggressively and smart.

Even when Fury was letting shots go, he still had his feet in great position and taking half steps back while unloading, just to make sure he was perfectly positioned to defend any counters. Great coordination that the untrained eye may not see at first glance.

In terms of the approach he took in taking the fight to Wilder, the perfect balance of aggression and still being safe, it was as good as you’ll see.

As for Wilder looking bad. You can only be made to look as bad as your opponent makes you.

Wilder on Saturday would’ve probably still levelled pretty much any HW in the world with a right hand. I’d be surprised if any of them would’ve even had the bollocks to use the tactics Fury did, never mind the skill to actually do it.

[SN!PER]

It won't be easy, but it's definitely possible for Wilder to win.

People always underestimate a fighter right after they take a loss.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Fury looked average?

I don’t think you quite understood what he was doing in there, the intricate things. It was a very high level display of how to command a boxing ring and fight aggressively and smart.

Even when Fury was letting shots go, he still had his feet in great position and taking half steps back while unloading, just to make sure he was perfectly positioned to defend any counters. Great coordination that the untrained eye may not see at first glance.

In terms of the approach he took in taking the fight to Wilder, the perfect balance of aggression and still being safe, it was as good as you’ll see.

As for Wilder looking bad. You can only be made to look as bad as your opponent makes you.

Wilder on Saturday would’ve probably still levelled pretty much any HW in the world with a right hand. I’d be surprised if any of them would’ve even had the bollocks to use the tactics Fury did, never mind the skill to actually do it.

I agree, trust me. I prefer this type of Fury more than before and hopefully he imposes this style against all new incoming opponents because I Believe his overall weight gives him the technique for heavy hands. Also it means to commit on straight punches versus repetitive jabs or combos like classic Fury.

But when I meant rudimentary and basic it kind of reminded me how Canelo beat Kovalev. Canelo knew it was too risky to box Kovalev stylistically so he went with more crude high guarding and countering because that’s not how Kovalev fights his opponents. That’s why I call Fury’s latest style yet effective, just basic; leaping with 1-2 and then smothering your weight, rinse and repeat. But I enjoyed it because that’s a game plan!

But seriously, Wilder can change things if he focuses on defenses. He needs to learn to be loose and use more head movement like in the first fight and dig to the body, again, like in the first fight. This last Saturday Wilder was horrible.

I find it interesting that the LDBc PBC fans aren’t flaming on Wilder’s performance. He looked like garbage.

[boliodogs]

You are the same guy who said GGG had no chance to beat Canelo in a rematch. Now you say Wilder has a shot at beating Fury. There should have been an immediate 3rd fight between Canelo and GGG when a champion loses his title by a single point in the challenger's back yard. There is no reason for a rematch between Wilder and Fury after Fury showed how superior he is with a one sided beat down.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You are the same guy who said GGG had no chance to beat Canelo in a rematch. Now you say Wilder has a shot at beating Fury. There should have been an immediate 3rd fight between Canelo and GGG when a champion loses his title by a single point in the challenger's back yard. There is no reason for a rematch between Wilder and Fury after Fury showed how superior he is with a one sided beat down.

Lol. I’m saying don’t count Wilder out. The premise is if Wilder exercises the finale. That was never the option for GGG let alone theres no weight disparity between Canelo GGG as there is with Wilder Fury you dummy!