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  • #61
    Originally posted by World Champion
    Because you have a lot of fanboys trying to mislead people.

    I've got nothing to hide. Here is the original source video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvpFq2Gv8E

    Change the playback speed on your youtube settings to .25 speed so you can really slow it down and see exactly where the punch landed. You'll see the frame I posted is the exact moment of initial impact. I didn't do anything deceptive, unlike some of these other posters.
    first, it's not a good angle to make a proper assessment, and even so, it's not clear it landed behind the head. it looked like it hit him in the ear to me. the damage to his ear supports that. wilder also turned his head with it, so it's not really fury's fault.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by World Champion View Post
      It's Wilder's fault, not Fury's fault. Wilder had his hands down. Wilder was unprepared. Which forced Wilder to have to duck instead of block.

      But regardless of whose fault it is, if you get hit with a devastating shot directly behind the head, and you're clearly in no condition to continue, what happens the next four rounds isn't indicative of your ability. My complaint isn't about the punch, my complaint is about the narrative coming out of the fight.
      I think everyone knows what you're saying is the truth. But they are telling a different story because they don't want to take away from Fury's victory. And I get that, I really do. The foul wasn't intentional. But at the same time, it's obvious that Deontay was impaired, and he deserves another shot. No fighter wants to go out like that.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
        TS is literally too ****** to see there is a point of reference.


        No part of Ruiz's glove is on the back of Joshua's head. In any way whatsoever. You can see Joshua's entire neck and the entire back of his head. Why? Because the glove landed on the ear, not the back of the head.




        Just like in the Joshua photo, we have a great view here of the back of Wilder's head.

        Can we see his entire neck and back of head like we can in the Joshua photo? When Joshua got hit on the ear, we can see everything behind the ear because nothing behind the ear is being hit.

        Yet with Fury, his entire glove is on the back of the head. Not the ear. Not the temple. It simply wasn't an ear shot.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by World Champion View Post
          The best view of what happened BEHIND is the view from BEHIND.




          You're using a top view to pause before the punch actually lands.

          Here is the original source video:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvpFq2Gv8E

          Change the playback speed on your youtube settings to .25 speed so you can really slow it down and see exactly where the punch landed.
          The top view shows the glove touching Wilders head. I know exactly when it landed.

          From the side you have no idea if the punch even landed or not. You're just making the guess that fits your agenda.

          Take the L.

          People already made GIFs disproving you.

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          • #65
            It was behind the ear slightly on back of head because of wilders position, ajs was more on top of temple. This is the thing, wilder fans shouls not make this argument because hes landed punches in that same place and we celebrated, even the first knockdown in the first fight was slightly on back of head

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            • #66
              Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
              TS is literally too ****** to see there is a point of reference.

              Wilder has white hair ties holding up his hair and the punch landed where you can still see said hair ties.

              That means the shot was NOT at the back of the head.

              via *****



              ... the GIF here shows it all... one must be a fanatic in order to see something which didn't actually happen... ...

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              • #67
                Both got hit behind the ear. Joshua got it much worse as he was trading a left hook.

                Correction, on rewatch looked more on the temple for aj.
                Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-24-2020, 01:16 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by World Champion
                  You're right it's not Fury's fault. Fury won fair and square. I am not contesting the result of the fight. I'm contesting the narrative coming out of the fight.

                  As for it looking to you like Wilder got hit in the ear, this is what an ear shot actually looks like:




                  Whereas in the Fury blow, Wilder's arm is out stretched and Fury is having to throw BEHIND Wilder's out stretched arm.

                  Fury's arm is coming up from over Wilder's shoulder blade, while Wilder's head is ducked down in the other direction.

                  It wouldn't even be physically possible from that angle for Fury to land on Wilder's ear. We can clearly see Fury's glove is landing on the back of the head and neck, not the side of the head and ear.

                  We all know the screenshot you're using is a lie.

                  When Fury lands that punch you can still see WILDERS WHITE HAIR TIES and then the glove glances behind his head. Are you counting the returning motion as a punch????

                  In your screenshot why are the WHITE HAIR TIES unseen?

                  Its because you have an agenda and you cant take the L. PLENTY of people were saying Ruiz hit AJ behind the head and we know damn well it wasnt true.

                  Tell me smart ass. How can you tell when the punch hit when you clearly cannot see the moment of impact? Top view shows what you cannot see from the limited side view.

                  It CLEARY SHOWS the punch initially landed on the side of the head before WHITE HAIR TIES
                  which are located at the back of Wilders head

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by World Champion
                    I am not a Wilder fan. I'm not a fan of anybody. I want an undisputed champion ASAP, which is why I rooted for Fury. I hope Wilder declines the rematch and we get Fury vs Joshua next.

                    Fury won fair and square. I don't dispute that.

                    What I dispute is the idea that Wilder was out classed or dominated for 7 rounds, would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

                    It was essentially a one punch knockout, that happened to be to the back of the head (Wilder's fault, not Fury's), and Wilder through sheer guts and determination stayed out there as a dead man walking with no legs and no chance until finally his corner threw in the towel (it should have been thrown in in the 4th after it was clear he would never recover from the accidental rabbit punch).
                    "I'm not a Wilder fan"

                    But I'm gonna keep pretending that Fury got lucky and hit Wilder on the back of the head and that changed everything...

                    When that clearly did not happen.

                    Everyone saw Wilder get completely outclassed.

                    I'm not a betting man but I'd bet big bucks on Fury. Fury got hit with a clean 1-2 in the first round and ate it. He then completely bullied Wilder.

                    How about you get your head out of your ass?

                    Fury hit Wilder with a ton of hard jabs and had a sustained body attack. Wilder didnt know how to respond and being a one trick pony he was out of tricks.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by world champion
                      i am not a wilder fan. I'm not a fan of anybody. I want an undisputed champion asap, which is why i rooted for fury. I hope wilder declines the rematch and we get fury vs joshua next.

                      Fury won fair and square. I don't dispute that.

                      What i dispute is the idea that wilder was out classed or dominated for 7 rounds, would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

                      It was essentially a one punch knockout, that happened to be to the back of the head (wilder's fault, not fury's), and wilder through sheer guts and determination stayed out there as a dead man walking with no legs and no chance until finally his corner threw in the towel (it should have been thrown in in the 4th after it was clear he would never recover from the accidental rabbit punch).
                      i hear you, i definitley do

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