Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury-Deontay Wilder II: Afterthoughts

[j.razor]

Been saying it for years. Good to see you finally caught up.

Your off a lot so I'm going to just start listening to you

[j.razor]

He really isn't.

He had a crap amateur career and did nothing of note.
In his 15th pro fight he was fighting in a rec centre.
To put that into comparison to other fighters AJ was a world champion at that point.
In his 19th fight he was fighting in a club.
To put that further into perspective AJ had all the titles but 2 at that point.
After his 21st fight he was fighting in the joint club and was then banned for taking drugs.
Aj was fighting another world champion at that point.

Ortiz came into the pro game near to 30 years old and should have targeted high profile fights asap. He didn't take them.

The two times he stepped up to world level he got KO'ed.

Cut out the dumb shet, he was ducked until D.Wilder gave him both shots.

[Slimpack]

You get the feeling that Wilder simply never tried to improve his boxing skills cause his right hand always bailed him out when it mattered (albeit against complete bums).
It's kinda sad cause he's a capable lad with natural athleticism/power and a build that gives him height and reach advantages over just about anyone.
In the end he couldn't even get the basics right despite being a pro for over 11 years.

I couldn't agree more.

[Falkano]

Cut out the dumb shet, he was ducked until D.Wilder gave him both shots.

Ducked by who? He had a contract to fight AJ he turned it down.

Stop making up ****.

[j.razor]

Ducked by who? He had a contract to fight AJ he turned it down.

Stop making up ****.

Bullshet, Aj ducked him.

[Slimpack]

Wilder need to go back to the basics. He can still rule the world again. It's never too late to learn. He need to fire his entire training crew, because they have contributed nothing to his career. They are mere gold diggers. They failed him or maybe he failed himself. You can't force someone to do things they don't like. Wilder is a one dimensional boxer that only rely on his power. Whyte, AJ, Parker, Fury, and other top heavy weights have shown significant improvements overtime in their career but Wilder keep saying "if it's not broken, don't fix it". Many of us saw that he needed to improve on his basics. We saw this coming. A wise champ ought to have many tools in his pocket. When one style fails, you quickly switch to another. But Wilder wasn't ready to learn. Ortiz was the first person to exposed him. A much younger Ortiz could have won both fights.
No disrespect, but it seems Wilder is the only HW champ in history with no technical skills. What a shame!

[Falkano]

Bullshet, Aj ducked him.

He ducked him by giving him a contract offering $10m to take the place of Miller? You know the one that Ruiz took because Ortiz rejected it?

[NachoMan]

Wilder need to go back to the basics. He can still rule the world again. It's never too late to learn. He need to fire his entire training crew, because they have contributed nothing to his career. They are mere gold diggers. They failed him or maybe he failed himself. You can force someone to do things they don't like. Wilder is a one dimensional boxer that only rely on his power. Whyte, AJ, Parker, Fury, and other top heavy weights have shown significant improvements overtime in their career but Wilder keep saying "if it's not broken, don't fix it". Many of us saw that he needed to improve on his basics. Was saw this coming. A wise champ ought to have many tools in his pocket. When the one style fails, you quickly switch to another. But Wilder wasn't ready to learn. Ortiz was the first person to exposed him. A much younger Ortiz could have won both fights.
No disrespect, but it seems Wilder is the only HW champ in history with no technical skills. What a shame!

He needs to get to the basics before he can go back to them, but, yes, he's not going to get there with the current team. He's loyal, but they have done nothing for him and they have had plenty of time. Maybe its largely Deontay's fault up to this point, but If Deontay is willing to change, he cannot do it with this team. Jay Deas is about the weakest head trainer I have ever heard speak. I don't know he knows about the sport, but he never conveys it in fights and Wilder's complete lack of progress in his technique is all the evidence anyone needs to declare Deas and company incompetent.

[nixxter]

Forget the dumb shet, you know damn well Ortiz was/is a top 5 heavyweight.

Beating bums doesn't make you top 5.

[jmrf4435]

He looked confused in the last fight against Fury..

LOOKED LOST IN THIS ONE< LOST.

He got master classed