The knockdown shot Wilder could never recover from.

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    #21
    Originally posted by KingOfGlory
    It's not Fury's fault Wilder chose to move his head forward and turn it away.
    It's also not Fury's fault Wilder had his hands down after the break. It's not Fury's fault Wilder was surprised Fury threw so quickly after the break. And not Fury's fault that Wilder having his hands down, and being caught by surprise, forced Wilder to have to duck down, leaving the back of his head open.

    I'm not blaming Fury for any of this. I'm simply pointing out that it was a devastating blow directly to the back of the head and the fight was over at that point.

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      #22
      Originally posted by killakali
      Like Andy vs AJ.
      Incorrect.

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        #23
        the shot was on the back of the head but wilder has landed in the same place and we celebrated it as a knockdown so it makes no sense to really make a big deal out of it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
          I find it super deceptive just using one screen shot that fits your agenda. I bet a few frames before shows the shot landed in a different spot.

          But ok.
          Actually quite the opposite. I deliberately posted the exact original point of impact, which doesn't look nearly as bad as where the punch ended up after. I posted the fairest frame possible. If I was trying to be deceptive, I would have posted a few frames later, which looks like this:

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            #25
            Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
            Disagree. Wilder looked normal in the first 2 rounds. I had it scored 1 - 1 at the start of the 3rd. After Wilder went down in round 3, he looked terrible. Like he was on slippery ice and couldn't find his balance.
            My take too. That 3rd round knock down took his legs for the rest of the fight. Not dissimilar to AJ v Ruiz 1 with the damage lasting for rounds

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              #26
              Originally posted by uppercut510
              the shot was on the back of the head but wilder has landed in the same place and we celebrated it as a knockdown so it makes no sense to really make a big deal out of it.
              There are plenty of people suggesting Fury simply outclassed Wilder, that Wilder would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

              Clearly these people are unaware, or ignoring the fact that accidental or not, Wilder was hit with a brutal blow directly to the back of the skull. Any "out classing" that took place after that was simply a dead man with a ton of heart continuing on when a lesser man would have never gotten up.

              I've seen some compare this to Joshua and Ruiz, but Ruiz landed a clean legal punch to the ear. No part of his glove was behind the ear whatsoever, wheras Fury's entire glove was behind the head and none of it touched the ear.

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                #27
                Originally posted by World Champion
                There are plenty of people suggesting Fury simply outclassed Wilder, that Wilder would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

                Clearly these people are unaware, or ignoring the fact that accidental or not, Wilder was hit with a brutal blow directly to the back of the skull. Any "out classing" that took place after that was simply a dead man with a ton of heart continuing on when a lesser man would have never gotten up.

                I've seen some compare this to Joshua and Ruiz, but Ruiz landed a clean legal punch to the ear. No part of his glove was behind the ear whatsoever, wheras Fury's entire glove was behind the head and none of it touched the ear.
                If that punch doesn't land, and the round continues to end uneventfully, do you think the fight ends differently?

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                  #28
                  same punch AJ never recovered from vs Ruiz. equilibrium is gone forever after that.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    If that punch doesn't land, and the round continues to end uneventfully, do you think the fight ends differently?
                    Wilder would have had 9 more rounds to try to catch Fury. I have no idea if he would have caught him or not. I guess that's what the rematch will be for. Wilder will have 12 more rounds to try to catch him.

                    Rewatching the fight now, Fury hit Wilder behind the head so many times in the 3rd round, that it's possible it was a deliberate strategy. Not that it matters. I don't believe in excuses. Fury won. Period. So my argument is not about who should have won the fight. Fury should have won and he did.

                    My argument has more to do with how the fight is being portrayed in the aftermath. As some sort of dismantling or outclassing. When the truth is that Wilder was the victim of what essentially was a devastating (accidental?) foul, was in absolutely no condition to continue after that, and then Fury beat up a dead man walking for a few rounds. I don't consider that a true reflection of their difference in ability. Had Wilder not gotten up, or refused to continue, his corner cried foul foul foul, filed a protest etc, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about how Wilder was "dominated," "out classed," etc. I don't think the average fan even realizes the punch was completely behind the head. ESPN controlled production of the telecast and it really wasn't in their best interest to shine a light on that.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bandman
                      same punch AJ never recovered from vs Ruiz. equilibrium is gone forever after that.
                      Ruiz's shot landed right on the ear, nowhere near the back of the head.




                      Fury's shot landed on the back of the head, nowhere near the ear.

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