Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: The Extra Weight Will Only Slow Down Fury

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    #11
    What a world we live in, where 230 pounds is bad and being over 270 is ideal. Where 230 lbs means you'll tire out, but over 270 lbs means you can fight 21 rounds. A world where a guy who throws punches as either a back fist or with a bent wrist, is more likely to knock out the guy with the highest KO percentage in heavyweight history. Fhuck out of here with that schit. Fury at 270 lbs is far more likely to tire early than Wilder is. Wilder is far more likely to ko Fury. And Fury is far more likely to out point Wilder for a UD. If Fury engages more Wilder will land more, and Fury most likely goes down.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      The extra weight will slow Wilder down more. It's a higher % of Wilder's total bodyweight added.

      Wilder has had a 8.5% increase in weight, Fury 6.6%.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 02-22-2020, 02:19 AM.

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      • Tecnoworld
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        #13
        Wilder looks very muscular and he's lean even with the added weight. I'm curious to see his legs, if they are bigger now.

        Fury looks really big, but I'm not sure if that added weight is "all muscle".

        That said, they are both very tall. They both are taller than Carnera, who used to be at about 120kg in his prime.

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        • Oshio
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          #14
          No excuses this time please. I am for Fury for the UD.

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          • Blond Beast
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            #15
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            It may help if Fury is going to try and pressure, lean on him, wear him out.

            If Fury was going to box and try to get a points decision I'd expect he'd come in lighter to be fast and elusive.

            He'll be a more stationary target and likely be ko'd I feel if he does what I think he'll do now.
            I thought Fury was blowing smoke saying he was coming in heavy, but he did. Also a 2nd round KO would most likely be from a single lunch or combo not from breaking a guy down, and I don’t see Fury going for that since that’s not his M.O. or his skill set. I’ll be impressed if he goes for it. I agree with everything u said, except for the part about the extra weight being useful if he’s going to lean on him wear him out. I’ve always had a problem with this perception. When has anyone won a fight by leaning on a guy and hence wearing him out? No one really builds their physique based on leaning on someone and not trying to land punches instead. It’s an old boxing joke. Douglas got fat to lean on Holyfield. It’s what every fighter says once the show up heavy. Bruno said Tyson would be like running into a brick wall. No he was a slow plodding target that got demolished. Tired fighters lean on each other because it uses less energy than anything else. So why does everyone say that leaning on someone is sum sort of viable strategy? U lean forward with ur weight on someone ur using them for balance. They break free and ur off balance falling into a shot. I just don’t get it. Where are all these blue prints of people coming in heavy and leaning on the opponent which was the key to victory? Leaning isn’t the same as clinching then? Adding 20lbs around the waist isn’t the same effect as 20lbs on ur shoulders if leaning is the goal either.

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            • Mindgames
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              #16
              Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
              What a world we live in, where 230 pounds is bad and being over 270 is ideal. Where 230 lbs means you'll tire out, but over 270 lbs means you can fight 21 rounds. A world where a guy who throws punches as either a back fist or with a bent wrist, is more likely to knock out the guy with the highest KO percentage in heavyweight history. Fhuck out of here with that schit. Fury at 270 lbs is far more likely to tire early than Wilder is. Wilder is far more likely to ko Fury. And Fury is far more likely to out point Wilder for a UD. If Fury engages more Wilder will land more, and Fury most likely goes down.
              Its a world where Wilders output is very low already, a world where he always looks poor in the 230s,and a world where he had hes head boxed off in fight one. Wilder says he's fine, but he's added 18lb for no reason?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Blond Beast
                I thought Fury was blowing smoke saying he was coming in heavy, but he did. Also a 2nd round KO would most likely be from a single lunch or combo not from breaking a guy down, and I don’t see Fury going for that since that’s not his M.O. or his skill set. I’ll be impressed if he goes for it. I agree with everything u said, except for the part about the extra weight being useful if he’s going to lean on him wear him out. I’ve always had a problem with this perception. When has anyone won a fight by leaning on a guy and hence wearing him out? No one really builds their physique based on leaning on someone and not trying to land punches instead. It’s an old boxing joke. Douglas got fat to lean on Holyfield. It’s what every fighter says once the show up heavy. Bruno said Tyson would be like running into a brick wall. No he was a slow plodding target that got demolished. Tired fighters lean on each other because it uses less energy than anything else. So why does everyone say that leaning on someone is sum sort of viable strategy? U lean forward with ur weight on someone ur using them for balance. They break free and ur off balance falling into a shot. I just don’t get it. Where are all these blue prints of people coming in heavy and leaning on the opponent which was the key to victory? Leaning isn’t the same as clinching then? Adding 20lbs around the waist isn’t the same effect as 20lbs on ur shoulders if leaning is the goal either.
                Its a more natural weight for Fury. He wants to maul him like Cunningham. Wilders obviously concerned because he's come in heavy, and hes already got a low output. Wilder will tire quickly here. Fat doesnt tax cardio like muscles it seems. Look at Ruiz Joshua.

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                • MrBillion
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                  #18
                  Yelp Wilder ass got the wrong game plan! He trained for a mover in Fury but Fury want be moving as much he'll be inside and using a Lennox Lewis style Jab and Right Hand.... Agressive is Fury plan and Wilder won't do **** but cover up with his hands up like he do each time somebody steps to him

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                  • Blond Beast
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mindgames
                    Its a more natural weight for Fury. He wants to maul him like Cunningham. Wilders obviously concerned because he's come in heavy, and hes already got a low output. Wilder will tire quickly here. Fat doesnt tax cardio like muscles it seems. Look at Ruiz Joshua.
                    Cunningham also dropped Fury don’t forget, not a shot he wants to take vs Wilder. I thought maybe he was goading Wilder into coming in heavier and Wilder did, we will see if that seems to be an issue. We didn’t even get to look at Fury’s physique and as a prize fighter he should be embarrassed of that. Andy Ruiz set an awful precedent weighing in wearing a shirt and sombrero, he was obviously embarrassed about the extra weight or he wouldn’t have done it. Pics especially in the digital age aren’t reliable, heck someone saw a flattering angle of Ruiz thinking he looked lighter leading up to the fight. It became truth that even Ruiz denied. Everyone said AJ looked sooo skinny and must be off the PEDS.
                    Wilder wore pants because he has skinny legs and that’s lame too. Both wore shoes on the scale which is a joke. U could also say that 400lbs is a natural weight for Fury. But this is prize fighting, coming in heaviest of ur career for both fighters tells me things weren’t the normal routine one way or another for either. We see if it’s improvements. But if u say u are in the best shape of ur career and added all that weight u must have shown up to camp heavy or add a serious extra amount of calories.

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                    • P4Pdunny
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                      #20
                      Don't see weight being an issue, may the better man win

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