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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    He’s usually 215-220 isn’t he?

    At 231lbs idk. He might be slower than usual but more powerful.

    Tyson Fury at 273lbs, jesus. That’s like another weight class.

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      #22
      Originally posted by NoConcoms
      He'd better not take that approach. Cunningham dropped him. Wilder will KILL HIM if he does.
      That is exactly what approach he is taking, even if he decided to apply the same kind of tactics that he used in the first fight? I honestly don't think he has been training to produce that type of performance.

      In one of his interviews afew weeks ago 'He stated that he had cut down his roadwork from 5-7 times per week to TWICE a week.

      Fury has been training specifically to bully Wilder 'There will be no dancing and stinging in this fight'

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      • Nash out
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        #23
        Originally posted by Simurgh
        Not sure it benefits him. He wouldn’t punch harder, but would be more fatigued in the 2nd half.
        The weights are interesting. It's hard to know at this stage how/if it will effect both fighters. Maybe Wilder felt that Fury would come in a lot heavier, so had to keep up with him in weight gain to avoid being manhandled to easily, as Fury has the body strength advantage anyway.

        Will be interesting to see if Wilder fatigues. One thing though, with Fury putting on that weight, and it looks decent weight by Fury's body type and his biceps are looking pretty good, it looks like he is going for that knockout. I really believe that now. I'm not saying he'll go for broker straight away, but he will try and KO Wilder every time he feels he is their for the taking.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          He’s usually 215-220 isn’t he?

          At 231lbs idk. He might be slower than usual but more powerful.

          Tyson Fury at 273lbs, jesus. That’s like another weight class.
          223 against Breazeale, 220 against Ortiz.

          Going back farther he's been 229 against Molina.

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            #25
            Originally posted by NoConcoms
            He'd better not take that approach. Cunningham dropped him. Wilder will KILL HIM if he does.
            Fury fought Cunningham early on with his stands down just walking forward as he didn't think Cunningham could hurt him. But by doing that he got caught absolutely flush and did very well to get up. He won't fight Wilder that recklessly. He will go for the KO, but in a calculated way. Very interesting fight.

            I remember in the first fight, after both knockdowns Fury had success walking Wilder down, being aggressive and closing the distance, whilst still being mindful defensively. That way could be the key to success, as Wilder does need some leverage for his best power shots. If you take away Wilder's pocket of space, he is less effective, but of course their are dangers to this tactic, but that's the one I think he'll take and i think he will win by KO.

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            • NoConcoms
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              #26
              Originally posted by Nash out

              I remember in the first fight, after both knockdowns Fury had success walking Wilder down, being aggressive and closing the distance, whilst still being mindful defensively. That way could be the key to success, as Wilder does need some leverage for his best power shots. If you take away Wilder's pocket of space, he is less effective, but of course their are dangers to this tactic, but that's the one I think he'll take and i think he will win by KO.
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              I will eat all of my words if Fury KO's Deontay. Heck, I HOPE HE DOES. Just so it isn't so predictable.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #27
                Eh I think it's much ado about nothing. Both gained some weight from the first fight. It's largely gonna cancel out I imagine. If anything I feel like the added weight is worse for Fury who depends on speed & agility more to win.

                One thing I was already leaning towards & am even more confident of now is we will see a stoppage. Either Wilder gets to Fury in the first 8 or so rounds or Fury leans on & wears out Wilder enough to stop him in the 2nd half of the fight. Idk if I like the under (10.5rds) cuz it discounts Fury too much but I like the fight ends in a KO bet.

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                • Redd Foxx
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                  #28
                  I think he bulked a little in anticipation of Fury coming in larger. Will give him a little more punch resistance if Fury decides to sit down on his punches. I think it was a smart move.

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                  • deathofaclown
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                    #29
                    Wilder looks in good shape but his style is built for explosiveness. Trying to be explosive and missing with added weight/muscle could cause fatigue.

                    But the reality is both guys have trained hard and have experienced teams around them. Both are at the weight for a purpose, it’s not an Ruiz case of eating pizza

                    So I don’t read too much into it.

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                    • BigZ44
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                      #30
                      I'm honestly not sure, think 220-225 is his ideal range. Will being a touch over that negatively affect him? I'm not sure, maybe he gases late in the fight with that weight, maybe he isn't pushed around so easily in the clinch with that weight, I honestly don't know what the impact it will be. There obviously isn't any bad weight on him, but I'd probably still be a bit nervous if I was his team with it being a career high weight, simply because you are in the unknown now

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