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  • Kezzer
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    #91
    Originally posted by davefromvancouv
    No it's not...

    Fury beat Klitschko easily, fighting him from a distance and in close. Joshua tried to avoid any exchanges with Ruiz in the rematch and when he couldn't do that, Ruiz got the better of him. Big difference...
    You do realise all the stats show Joshua best Ruiz more convincingly that fury beat klitschko?

    Don’t let facts ruin your argument though.

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    • TBear
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      #92
      I have it 1 Fury, 2 Wilder and 3 Joshua. Today! who knows what tomorrow brings.

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      • JayCho
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        #93
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv
        No it's not...

        Fury beat Klitschko easily, fighting him from a distance and in close. Joshua tried to avoid any exchanges with Ruiz in the rematch and when he couldn't do that, Ruiz got the better of him. Big difference...
        So Ruiz got the better of him like 4 times in the fight but lost an easy decision victory then? Thanks for clarifying.

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        • JayCho
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          #94
          I agree with a lot of what Steve Kim says in this interview with Koogs.
          Joshua definitely has the better record if you pick the depth of opponents/results(I’m saying results because the wilder fury draw is wilders best result and for fury its his second best)

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          • Josh69
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            #95
            Who is No1, No2 and No3 in the current heavyweight division?

            Sport fans are amazing people. It is however, absurd at times to read comments of people who do not use logic and common sense in their arguments and it becomes dull.
            And again comments are but opinions which are most of the time not substantial. Most of the approaches are subjectively based on emotions (who we favor vs who we do not) and not stats and facts.
            In my view there is no no1, no2, and no3 as yet. We are being denied the opportunity to rate the top three heavyweight dogs of this era by politics and selfish networks. Of course the three boxers are also allowing this to happen. It does not matter who says what, whether it is Lenox Lewis or the boxers themselves or the so called boxing experts; we cannot be legitimate and authentic in trying to rank these three top heavyweights (Wilder, Joshua and Fury) because we are not enabled to do so.
            Until these three guys fight each other, no one has the legitimacy to rank them. Jushua has three belts, Wilder has one, and Fury has his imagery belt. Even if Joshua ends up fight the winner between Wilder and Fury, he still has to fight the loser as well so that we can then say there is a no1, no2 and no3. This is the only way we'll know for sure.
            So, let sanity prevail and let us push for these fights to happen. Trilogies should be an after thought. We have to sought out this challenge of knowing for sure who belongs where not by opinion but by facts.

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            • hugh grant
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              #96
              Fury is no1, josh no2, Wilder no3.
              Fury beat wilder, but don't know if he can beat Josh yet. So out of the so called top 3 against each other, only wilder has a loss under belt.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 02-22-2020, 07:51 AM.

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              • TMLT87
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                #97
                If Wilder wins tonight thats all good.At this stage though its hard to have Wilder over Fury considering how their first fight went.

                Isnt Lennox pretty much on the PBC payroll anyway? I also get the impression he might be a little sore over Joshua (maybe Fury too) since he never really got the credit and adoration he deserved in the UK.

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                • davefromvancouv
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by JayCho
                  So Ruiz got the better of him like 4 times in the fight but lost an easy decision victory then? Thanks for clarifying.
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  You do realise all the stats show Joshua best Ruiz more convincingly that fury beat klitschko?

                  Don’t let facts ruin your argument though.
                  The fact is Joshua fought as if he knew he couldn't beat Ruiz as convincingly as Ruiz beat him. So he avoided actually fighting him and avoided actually beating him up. Not very good optics, running from obese man six inches shorter than you. But hey, you're right. He DID win a comfortable decision. It was just more comical than convincing, that's all:

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #99
                    Fury is no1, Josh is no2 as he has a better resume than Wilder and WIlder has loss against Fury. Josh would beat ortiz also which is wilders best win. Parker, Povetkin, Whyte trump wilders wins.
                    These rankings can change, but it depends on what wilder does against Josh. Plus Wilder needs to beat fury first.

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                    • Marvlus Marv
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      It's not a rabbit punch if your opponent ducks into it.
                      None were rabbit punches, really, and none were even clean punches. I'm just winding 1Hour Seckbach. The boy don't like the Fury's

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