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  • #11
    Originally posted by larryx... View Post
    This is my take on keys to victory

    Fury-Fury will have to keep Wilder honest and imo push him back, He will have to fight like Loma. meaning he will have to come forward while still being evasive. Wilder has issues while being pushed back and does not throw a lot as he is waiting on that perfect shot. Fury will have to dance with the devil in his own wheel house so he wont be caught at the end of those shots.

    Wilder-Wilder will have to use his jab, not to the head but to the shoulder or the chest and try to follow it up with the left hook. His right hand will have to be worked in with a combo as that is the main thing Fury is working on to take away. I saw him working on uppercuts and that would be a great shot to follow the lead left hook or the left jab as Fury drops levels when he avoids shots..
    - -U take out Chinese or Korean?

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    • #12
      My keys to Victory

      For Wilder: Wilder has to not be caught going backwards. He needs to start attacking from across the ring confusing Fury's distancing. Wilder is not going to outbox Fury... But what he can do is catch Fury making an adjustment. He can also use his jab to keep Fury honest.

      Wilder is not going to be able to use a lot of punches... More on that to come... His job is to catch Fury and force Fury to a point where he can unload a straightened right hand on the chin. If he can catch Fury with that punch more than 5 times clean he will have a chance to win. One of any more than 5 clean could be a KO for Wilder.

      Anytime Fury is not on the back foot, Wilder should be attacking him. And anytime the fight goes inside... Wilder should relax and not waste energy fighting Fury... His time to strike inside is when they are coming together or coming apart (Like the second Ortiz fight). As far as uppercuts and hooks, Fury always moves his head when he dips below with his head and shoulders... better to catch him coming top down where he cannot see the punch.

      For Fury: Fury has to push Wilder back, on his heals, off balance perpetually. As he does this, that is the time to attack. Also, Fury needs to fight him inside and rough him up. Wilder is dangerous anytime he can catch you in an exchange. Fury needs to use his jab to make sure wilder is moving backwards and it is really that simple.

      Look at the Tyson Holly fights. That is what a boxer should be doing to a puncher. Tyson has two tasks: avoid the right hand and put wilder on his heals.

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      • #13
        It's not an upper cut...it's a hook/ uppercut... from the right hand... after throwing a few 1-2's straight down the pipe... the first fight...Fury constantly bent left to avoid Wilders right hand...he'll bend into it... just like Pac walked into Marquez's counter...same ugly result...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          Fury needs to be Fury, Wilder needs to be patient but double up on his jab. That’s it really... None of them have variety of punches to mix their game up with.
          Do you believe Fury when he says he will walk Wilder down?

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          • #15
            But who's going to win?

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            • #16
              The boxer almost always does better in the rematch. Fury won basically every round he didn’t get knocked down in. Hell, he won the rest of the rounds after getting up off the canvas as well. The skill gap is huge here. Without those two knockdowns it was a blow out. So he should win. History says the boxer does better in the rematch. But as we all know Wilder has been losing plenty of fights only to bomb a guy out. I think this is one of those rare fights where everyone knows the reality of the fight for what it is. I can’t wait.

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              • #17
                Wilder should pay some attention to Fury's body. That would shock the shlt out of him.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by fanofthescience View Post
                  It's not an upper cut...it's a hook/ uppercut... from the right hand... after throwing a few 1-2's straight down the pipe... the first fight...Fury constantly bent left to avoid Wilders right hand...he'll bend into it... just like Pac walked into Marquez's counter...same ugly result...
                  - -U been walking in doggie mess again.

                  Manny knocked BALCO Juan into the ropes and stepped in to finish.

                  Manny never got there. His lead foot stepped on JMM lead that propelled him sideways off balance, an open sitting duck, not a counter.

                  BALCO Juan made most of his career earnings vs Manny to duck fight #5 just like he did the first fight.

                  What grade U in now?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by larryx... View Post
                    This is my take on keys to victory

                    Fury-Fury will have to keep Wilder honest and imo push him back, He will have to fight like Loma. meaning he will have to come forward while still being evasive. Wilder has issues while being pushed back and does not throw a lot as he is waiting on that perfect shot. Fury will have to dance with the devil in his own wheel house so he wont be caught at the end of those shots.

                    Wilder-Wilder will have to use his jab, not to the head but to the shoulder or the chest and try to follow it up with the left hook. His right hand will have to be worked in with a combo as that is the main thing Fury is working on to take away. I saw him working on uppercuts and that would be a great shot to follow the lead left hook or the left jab as Fury drops levels when he avoids shots..
                    What is your prediction?

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                    • #20
                      Jab and left hook are vital for Wilder in this rematch. Fury nearly always bends and moves his head towards the right when wilder throws especially right hands.

                      If he can time Fury by moving him into this position and then throwing a left hook into this space he could be very effective.

                      His jab needs to be firing from the get go. Jabbing Fury’s body and arms

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