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  • Boxing_1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by Young Bidness
    DAZN had bid close to 1bil deals to secure rights for football in Europe but got outbid by BT Sports.

    Canelo told everyone in 2019 that if DAZN offers something EXTRA then he’ll consider it. He always states that, and has never stated he’ll take it without it. So given the state of latency with drama and gossip and DAZN needing some extra push seeing industry drama, you think DAZN can’t afford nor offer an extra $40mil for the GGG Trilogy since they can afford high bids? The context is empathy from DAZN execs. It actually exists.

    Or do you really think Canelo cares if GGG is on the decline? Canelo is after guys with belts and new challenges, preferably at 168. GGG would have to unify or get more belts for Canelo to consider if there wasn’t any extra added bonus. His words mayne.
    I think what it comes down to is that DAZN overpaid Canelo in that initial contract...as big of a star as Canelo is, he isn't worth that much per fight.

    So it is just good business for him at some point to not push too far, and give DAZN what they want...he shouldn't want to piss them off too much...they are paying him well above market value...as they are with all of their fighters really.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
      Lol...ah the old 'he went 12 rounds with a guy so he may have/did lose' card lol.

      Imho Derevy is really the only guy so far who has really tested GGG and had a legit claim to winning..
      That’s not how boxing works. Posts like yours proves why many don’t understand wear and tear in the real world.

      You don’t think Badou Jack smashing DeGale didn’t forever change him? The power of his shots wrecks DeGales teeth. Or do you want to believe Eubank wasn’t assisted with circumstance? How about Kell Brook’s fractured skull pieces and then going in against Spence whom coincidentally chipped more pieces off the skull?

      Or do you think all the posts from the site regarding Spence’s longetivity is simply fiction because the car wreck does nothing? YOu think Figueroa Jr. after getting tagged by Ugas will be the same again? Not that Haymon cares..

      So you think Devry’s success on GGG wasn’t because Canelo showed the whole world how many times he tagged him to the body or all the shots to the head didn’t do wear tear.

      We know you know all this stuff. Sometimes you gotta snap out of the hate and just call it how it is.

      LMAO. You’re discrediting Canelo’s 3rd fight when Canelo had 2 fights that predate Devry ffs... go hit a heavy bad once in your life and break in your hands. See what it feels like to be sore on the knuckles. Or go Spar a round. See if its easy.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        I think what it comes down to is that DAZN overpaid Canelo in that initial contract...as big of a star as Canelo is, he isn't worth that much per fight.

        So it is just good business for him at some point to not push too far, and give DAZN what they want...he shouldn't want to piss them off too much...they are paying him well above market value...as they are with all of their fighters really.
        Above market value? Canelo did 17 mil sales gate in 2019. How much was Floyd making on Showtime for six fights when you divide 200mil + PPV upside? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Your whole post is a joke. Golovkin had debatable fights with Jacobs, Derev and Canelo.
          You are a prime example of why a lot of potentially valid criticism of GGG isn't taken seriously...fair to say GGG was expected to do more in all of those fights...hit him for that...but any person who knows how to score a fight knows the only real close fight in those 4 was vs SD.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #15
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
            canelo can go and fight anyone else and win but the ggg fight will still be there as a question mark since canelo never beat ggg convincingly.

            just look at floyd, no matter what he did, manny was always the name that gets brought up, floyd knows this, so he played his cards right and waited until pac was on the decline to take the fight to shut everyone up.

            canelo is taking the same route floyd is... ggg is the guy that canelo has to beat convincingly, or it will remain a question mark and will alter his ATG status.
            Cmon dude. Nobody talks about Canelo vs GGG except for the GGG following in denial. I hope to see Canelo fight guys like Bivol or Beterbiev and Benavidez. GGG does nothing but is used as tool to discredit Canelo because the same fans said GGG was old back in 2017. No thank you.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Boxing_1013
              You are a prime example of why a lot of potentially valid criticism of GGG isn't taken seriously...fair to say GGG was expected to do more in all of those fights...hit him for that...but any person who knows how to score a fight knows the only real close fight in those 4 was vs SD.
              You're the one that doesn't know how to score fights. You've made that clear. Someone that claims Mayweather-Pacquiao was a closer fight than Canelo-Golovkin x 2 and Jacobs-Golovkin, is a ****ing joke.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Young Bidness
                That’s not how boxing works. Posts like yours proves why many don’t understand wear and tear in the real world.

                You don’t think Badou Jack smashing DeGale didn’t forever change him? The power of his shots wrecks DeGales teeth. Or do you want to believe Eubank wasn’t assisted with circumstance? How about Kell Brook’s fractured skull pieces and then going in against Spence whom coincidentally chipped more pieces off the skull?

                Or do you think all the posts from the site regarding Spence’s longetivity is simply fiction because the car wreck does nothing? YOu think Figueroa Jr. after getting tagged by Ugas will be the same again? Not that Haymon cares..

                So you think Devry’s success on GGG wasn’t because Canelo showed the whole world how many times he tagged him to the body or all the shots to the head didn’t do wear tear.

                We know you know all this stuff. Sometimes you gotta snap out of the hate and just call it how it is.

                LMAO. You’re discrediting Canelo’s 3rd fight when Canelo had 2 fights that predate Devry ffs... go hit a heavy bad once in your life and break in your hands. See what it feels like to be sore on the knuckles. Or go Spar a round. See if its easy.
                huh...lol...Canelo did some great stuff in that 2nd fight...in both fights really...as did Jacobs...doesn't mean they won or had a real claim to winning.

                I maintain, and think it is obvious to anyone who watched the three fights...that GGG took more damage vs Ouma than he did in either Canelo fight...but it is certainly fair to say that Canelo did some lasting work on GGG, especially in fight 2...I am not arguing against that, not have I ever really argued against it.

                I would say though that the success SD had vs imho is more a result of him being very motivated in that fight, GGG not being as motivated...and also SD's style is much more active than Canelo's so he scored more vs GGG.

                Originally posted by Young Bidness
                Above market value? Canelo did 17 mil sales gate in 2019. How much was Floyd making on Showtime for six fights when you divide 200mil + PPV upside? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
                How much money does Canelo generate per fight man...I know you love Canelo so will argue for him about anything.

                But he likely does not earn his $35 million per fight salary...he likely does not generate enough revenue per fight to justify him making $35 million per fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  You're the one that doesn't know how to score fights. You've made that clear. Someone that claims Mayweather-Pacquiao was a closer fight than Canelo-Golovkin x 2 and Jacobs-Golovkin, is a ****ing joke.
                  Lol...anyone acting like all 4 of those fights were anything other than clear 8-4 wins for 1 guy, just isn't keeping it real or has no idea what they're doing...keep telling yourself whatever you want to though man...when you get outlanded as heavily as those guys did, you just very very often lose...just is what it is...no sense in making stuff out to be what it isn't, sometimes the other guy wins man, it's OK.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                    Lol...anyone acting like all 4 of those fights were anything other than clear 8-4 wins for 1 guy, just isn't keeping it real or has no idea what they're doing...keep telling yourself whatever you want to though man...when you get outlanded as heavily as those guys did, you just very very often lose...just is what it is...no sense in making stuff out to be what it isn't, sometimes the other guy wins man, it's OK.
                    I actually love it when posters like you make claims like this. It exposes you to the entire forum. Any non biased fan is going to look at your post and know you're full of ****.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                      huh...lol...Canelo did some great stuff in that 2nd fight...in both fights really...as did Jacobs...doesn't mean they won or had a real claim to winning.

                      I maintain, and think it is obvious to anyone who watched the three fights...that GGG took more damage vs Ouma than he did in either Canelo fight...but it is certainly fair to say that Canelo did some lasting work on GGG, especially in fight 2...I am not arguing against that, not have I ever really argued against it.

                      I would say though that the success SD had vs imho is more a result of him being very motivated in that fight, GGG not being as motivated...and also SD's style is much more active than Canelo's so he scored more vs GGG.



                      How much money does Canelo generate per fight man...I know you love Canelo so will argue for him about anything.

                      But he likely does not earn his $35 million per fight salary...he likely does not generate enough revenue per fight to justify him making $35 million per fight.
                      You don’t know the nature of commercials nor know how ON Demand media works. DAZN forever owns premium rights to Canelo’s deal. It means in the future the can sell the rights to other services that want it. Why do you think the biggest Hollywood actors are paid crazy money? It’s because the company producing the film keeps the rights. You pay well for a star so that the star doesn’t ever come back with legal thinking they were stiffed. Some companies don’t break even but that’s the risk. Besides, DAZN is expanding. Enough with the theory its not generating money. That’s all silly propaganda. They deal with sports worldwide. Ryan Garcia looks to be the next Golden Boy at DAZN as long as he continues his A game. Not a big fan of his character, but lets see if his power, like DLH and Canelo and Bhop hooks meant something.

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