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  • P to the J
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    #21
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
    Just so all the Eddie Hearn little geeked out council estate casuals know, Marvin hagler is an all time great.....read about him
    I’ve no interest in Hearn but I have an interest in the moderators looking to ban you soon for your interminable campaign against the underprivileged (see: “council estate casuals”).

    A politically and socially minded individual would understand the implications of disparaging an underclass slowly being stripped of their public services, their education, their rights and their voices. YOU are part of the problem.

    If anyone here needs educating, it’s YOU. And believe me when I say that you will get far more value in reading about class in Britain than you will reading about Marvellous Marvin so I repeat a previous suggestion that you start with Chavs by Owen Jones.

    Should I see any further remarks of this ilk I will look to report you with the aim of getting your account suspended.

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    • CaptainWalrus
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      #22
      Reading this article because it has Marvin Hagler's name in the headline. One of best!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ray*
        I know the fight would get made.
        It would get made sure. If Joshua came to ESPN.

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        • P4Pdunny
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          #24
          fight doesn't happen if Wilder wins

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          • Ray*
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            #25
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
            It would get made sure. If Joshua came to ESPN.
            Am sure Team Joshua are opened for that, “IF” it presents them with their biggest money opportunity. No fighter, promoter, or manager would leave more money on the table to go and take short money from a different network. Unless you are Haymon for your own business interest.

            ESPN are about making money, they have burn money on Fury, they have to recoup that, that’s why Fury is fighting Wilder and him fighting AJ would be the biggest money fight in HW history and they want that fight. Just like Wilder didn’t have to go to ESPN, then am sure they would not expect AJ to as well.

            If they expect AJ to come to ESPN then we would know that they are avoiding the fight like Wilder has been all these times.

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              #26
              Originally posted by P4Pdunny
              fight doesn't happen if Wilder wins
              Am not even kidding, I have zero faith. None, that the undisputed fight happens if Wilder wins, not because he doesn’t want it, but because Haymon model isn’t in part of the fight. They think beating Fury and trying to brainwash the uneducated ones that AJ doesn’t exist is the way to go.

              When AJ was hot, sky sports were showing all his rivals fights (Including Wilder), they were building up every single one of AJ’s potential opponents, they were playing politics like none of them but AJ existed, even though they could play that game, I have zero respect for Haymon and the fact that they do not want the undisputed fight (They wanted it when they thought Ruiz was going to win the rematch), and that FOX executive made it clear in his interview with Chris Mannix that they wanted a PBC championship belt.

              Again I hope they sink.

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                #27
                Good to see Marvelous weighing in on the current state of boxing.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Am not even kidding, I have zero faith. None, that the undisputed fight happens if Wilder wins, not because he doesn’t want it, but because Haymon model isn’t in part of the fight. They think beating Fury and trying to brainwash the uneducated ones that AJ doesn’t exist is the way to go.

                  When AJ was hot, sky sports were showing all his rivals fights (Including Wilder), they were building up every single one of AJ’s potential opponents, they were playing politics like none of them but AJ existed, even though they could play that game, I have zero respect for Haymon and the fact that they do not want the undisputed fight (They wanted it when they thought Ruiz was going to win the rematch), and that FOX executive made it clear in his interview with Chris Mannix that they wanted a PBC championship belt.

                  Again I hope they sink.
                  You and I in full agreement here!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Am sure Team Joshua are opened for that, “IF” it presents them with their biggest money opportunity. No fighter, promoter, or manager would leave more money on the table to go and take short money from a different network. Unless you are Haymon for your own business interest.

                    ESPN are about making money, they have burn money on Fury, they have to recoup that, that’s why Fury is fighting Wilder and him fighting AJ would be the biggest money fight in HW history and they want that fight. Just like Wilder didn’t have to go to ESPN, then am sure they would not expect AJ to as well.

                    If they expect AJ to come to ESPN then we would know that they are avoiding the fight like Wilder has been all these times.
                    They all have their own agenda I don’t know why you single out Haymon and Wilder. If anything I put the blame on Hearn and Joshua because they should’ve picked Wilder instead of Parker. Both fighters were with Showtime at that time but that’s history.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                      They all have their own agenda I don’t know why you single out Haymon and Wilder. If anything I put the blame on Hearn and Joshua because they should’ve picked Wilder instead of Parker. Both fighters were with Showtime at that time but that’s history.
                      I respect your opinion, you can blame Team Joshua but I think am validated by PBC’’s history of not wanting to work with anyone else. Or their reluctance to do so.

                      Am in a thread relating to PBC and Wilder, so am not “Picking on them”, as boxing fans we should be sticking together against these lot. Just like me and you stuck together and denounce Top Rank and Arum when he wasn’t open to working with anyone else during the Pacman days.

                      So I don’t flip and flop due to my favourite fighter being aligned with a certain promoter or network. My blame is firmly on Haymon because the evidence is there not only with Wilder but with all his top names, the same cannot be said of other promoters or network.

                      Ramirez crossed the street, fought a unification, on other network, got paid handsomely, picked up the other belt, went back to his side of the streets with them, Arum (As much as I use to dislike him) didn’t pay him 200k to not take the fight. He let him, and Ramirez career is better for it.

                      JoJo Diaz just fought Farmer, took his belt, the same Farmer that PBC IG wouldn’t fight, Broner the same, Charlo the same. The history is there for PBC fighters, no one is “Picking” on them, we are stating the obvious.

                      The least you can do for the boxers and their fans is to negotiate when others want to, you might not come to an agreement for a fight. But sit down and negotiate, don’t try and pretend that others do not exist. This is not the UFC with MMA.

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