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  • OnlytheTruth
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    #31
    Originally posted by sunny31
    It was on the long side, in terms of the check but I've seen others like that and many do fall in the 15-20 second range. All you and many fans care about is the count, especially if you're a fan of the opposite fighter, the referee has to consider the health of the fighter and if he needs a couple of extra seconds to establish that, I think he and the fighter in question should be given the chance, especially in this scenario, 12th round, championship fight, heavy knockdown and he beat the count at 9, not to mention he was ahead and hadn't taken much punishment.

    Did he beat the count? Yes. Was the check long? Yes. Was it out of the bounds of normal? No

    It was great refereeing
    Yep.
    Wilder fans can't be too aggrieved. Wilder Ortiz 1 should have been stopped in the 7th, so its swings and roundabouts.

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    • Chollo Vista
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      #32
      Originally posted by sunny31
      Did he beat the count? Yes. Was the check long? Yes. Was it out of the bounds of normal? No

      It was great refereeing
      It was definitely out of the norm and it's not even close.

      There are hundreds of knockdowns each year. It is very rare that a fighter is given 20 seconds to recover after a knockdown.

      This isn't even debatable. This is crazy

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        #33
        Originally posted by SinderellaMan
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        Wilder KO 5
        Maybe. Depends on which Fury shows up - which is the only unknown here. We know what we're getting from Wilder, which is an attempt to go for a KO.

        What we DON'T know is
        • Whether Wilder will get a chance to land this time - since last time he went 10 rounds barely landing anything
        • If he does land, will it be flush, or flash knockdowns like the first knockdown in the first fight
        • Whether Fury will legit stand and trade like he says


        I actually think that the best way to beat Wilder is the same best way to beat Golovkin - don't fear him, go to him. Close distance, be the aggressor, take away his reach advantage. Wilder only has the power he has at range because all of his power is coming from his back. He's not going to spark you Linares-style with a short right inside and we know from the Szpilka fight he's vulnerable when he's throwing.

        If Fury ups the tempo he has a chance to beat this guy. I just don't know if the right Fury shows up. We need to see a LOT more of this right here:

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        • sunny31
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          #34
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          It was definitely out of the norm and it's not even close.

          There are hundreds of knockdowns each year. It is very rare that a fighter is given 20 seconds to recover after a knockdown.

          This isn't even debatable. This is crazy
          Disagree, you have to factor in the situation. You get all types of knock downs - heavy, flash, body shot, as well as what the point in the fight they happened. If you look at knock downs where the fighter barely beat the count after a heavy fall, I would think quite a few of those would be pushing 20 seconds. BJS vs Coerces was over 20 in fact and that was recent and just from memory, I bet I could find a lot more

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            #35
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            It was definitely out of the norm and it's not even close.

            There are hundreds of knockdowns each year. It is very rare that a fighter is given 20 seconds to recover after a knockdown.

            This isn't even debatable. This is crazy
            - -Total elapsed time was approx 20 sec.

            U noob? Refs today have legal responsibility to ascertain a fighters state before releasing him to fight, gen in the 15-20sec range.

            Don't like it, but reportedly Fury opened his eyes when he hit the canvas to wink at the ref, so some smart moves on his part that won't be granted this fight.

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