Originally posted by therealpugilist
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Who fought the tougher competition? Floyd Mayweather Jr or Bernard Hopkins?
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They're about the same. Hopkins didn't beat any elite Middleweights and Floyd fought lots of past prime guys but I voted Hopkins because of his fight vs Kovalev when he was in his 50's.
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Hopkins fought Tito Trinidad, the guy who beat Shane Mosley and Tito Trinidad, Jones, two guys who one punch KO'ed Jones, Jermain Taylor, the guy who one punch KO'ed an undefeated Jermain Taylor, and Kovalev before he turned into a punching bag...
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who fought tougher comp Hopkins...
there's no tougher comp than a prime, undefeated jones, prime, undefeated tito, an undefeated slightly past prime Calzaghe, and prime, undefeated Kovalev…
the closest to that Floyd has is a prime undefeated hatton, corrales, and canelo
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostJones was not prime, he wasn't prime until a few years later. Prime Trinidad was 147 Trinidad. Anyone claiming 160 Trinidad was prime quite frankly doesn't know **** about Trinidad.Last edited by NachoMan; 02-14-2020, 02:30 PM.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostYou're full of ****. Jones was already the top rated MW by then and he made that crystal clear by beating Hopkins and then James Toney a year later. Trinidad was considered at the peak of his powers at that time. He was favored over Hopkins despite having recently moved up. How long is a fighter's prime according to your stupid ass? Is it one fight long for you? If that's the case, in which fight was Tito in his prime. He fought Bernard when he was 28 yrs old. Within the two years prior to that fight he had unified the WW title against ODLH, won and unified the JMW title (against Reid and Vargas, respectively) and won the WBA MW title against Joppy. Oh, and he was still undefeated. You pound your chest a lot while declaring that everybody else is a boxing noob, but what do you really know about this sport?
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostYou're full of ****. Jones was already the top rated MW by then and he made that crystal clear by beating Hopkins and then James Toney a year later. Trinidad was considered at the peak of his powers at that time. He was favored over Hopkins despite having recently moved up. How long is a fighter's prime according to your stupid ass? Is it one fight long for you? If that's the case, in which fight was Tito in his prime, according to you? He fought Bernard when he was 28 yrs old. Within the two years prior to that fight he had unified the WW title against ODLH, won and unified the JMW title (against Reid and Vargas, respectively) and won the WBA MW title against Joppy. Oh, and he was still undefeated. You pound your chest a lot while declaring that everybody else is a boxing noob, but what do you really know about this sport?
Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
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Originally posted by HandsofIron View PostThe guy you quoted used the wrong term, undersized is what he was looking for. Tito was prime yes but undersized or small vs Hopkins.
Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
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Originally posted by HandsofIron View PostThe guy you quoted used the wrong term, undersized is what he was looking for. Tito was prime yes but undersized or small vs Hopkins.
Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostLosing to #8 P4P Jones is better than beating #2 P4P Pacquiao in your opinion? This is the stupidity on this forum.
Pacquiao, OTOH, had already been beaten by Bradley and KTFO courtesy of JMM by the time Floyd got his hands on him.
I'm sorry but 1993 Roy Jones jr is a stiffer test when compared to an ole' bum shoulder already beaten and KTFO'ed 2015 Manny Paquiao..
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