Who fought the tougher competition? Floyd Mayweather Jr or Bernard Hopkins?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Another one. Roy jones was pre prime and and i don't know how you can possibly say Trinidad was in his prime at 160. Ridiculous.
    They were prime. Even if not peak. Mayweather has never fought any fighter of this level when they were hungry lions.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      They were prime. Even if not peak. Mayweather has never fought any fighter of this level when they were hungry lions.
      You don't even know what prime means. How can they be prime but not peak?

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        #23
        I voted for Hopkins, one of my all-time favorite fighters.

        I wouldn’t consider myself a Mayweather fan-boy, but I have a ton of respect for his ring craft, the man was a wizard.

        Personally, I think the argument could be made that Floyd has a better resume on paper, with all of the champions he beat. However, while a lot of Floyd’s wins were against big names who were on the way down, B-Hop fought tougher fights against men in their prime, often when he was much, much older than them. And it could be argued that he fought the best ever (RJJ)

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          #24
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          You don't even know what prime means. How can they be prime but not peak?
          things people say on this board dont even surprise me anymore

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            #25
            why do people even waste time making threads about mayweather


            some posters go full Re&ard when his name is mentioned. wouldnt give the man credit if you paid them lol

            all those folks who posted for Hopkins and hardly any posted or explained their position


            thus why i dont do polls on this forum, speak your peace, back your opinion with facts or be ignored lol
            Last edited by therealpugilist; 02-14-2020, 11:55 AM.

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            • Brother Mouzone
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              #26
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Jones, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Wright, Calzaghe were not prime. This is what you get with casuals.
              You are a clown , I don't think anyone posting in a boxing forum is a casual.

              definition of prime
              of the best possible quality; excellent.
              a state or time of greatest strength, vigor, or success in a person's life.
              All the fighters i mentioned could be put in this category
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Mayweather and it's not close. He's fought the most p4p top 10 fighters and most title holders in history.
              You are surely not counting ODLH in those wins right ? considering he fought him 3 years later

              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              they have no idea that the time matters, not just the names


              Wright was at 170 a catchweight, fight shouldve been at middleweight for Hopkins title at 160 earlier

              DLH was in his 6th division and Tito in his 3rd


              calzaghe was closer to 40 than 30.


              Floyd has the better opponents by far when its all put in the proper context
              So how many division did Marquez move up by the time he fought Floyd and how old was he ? catchweight , how about Manny how old how many weight divisions ?, how old was Mosley ?.Canelo was green catchweight .Cotto how many wars did he fight before Floyd ?By your logic all these do not count towards his greatness right ? so who does that leave ?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Brother Mouzone
                You are a clown , I don't think anyone posting in a boxing forum is a casual.

                definition of prime
                of the best possible quality; excellent.
                a state or time of greatest strength, vigor, or success in a person's life.
                All the fighters i mentioned could be put in this category
                Not one of them was at their best. You;re talking nonsense. Like the casual you are.

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                • Brother Mouzone
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Not one of them was at their best. You;re talking nonsense. Like the casual you are.
                  This just confirms you are a clown , so who did Floyd fight at their "best" ? Manny ?, Marquez ?, Mosley ?, Canelo ?, Cotto ?, ODLH ?.Who did he fight at a high level in his late 40s ?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Brother Mouzone
                    This just confirms you are a clown , so who did Floyd fight at their "best" ? Manny ?, Marquez ?, Mosley ?, Canelo ?, Cotto ?, ODLH ?.Who did he fight at a high level in his late 40s ?
                    You're claiming fighters that weren't at their best are "prime" but i'm the clown? All i have done is point out your nonsense. I'd say fighters that are on P4P top 10 lists at the time they fought are at an high level wouldn't you?

                    The thread question says nothing about age. Stop trying to move the goalposts.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Brother Mouzone
                      You are a clown , I don't think anyone posting in a boxing forum is a casual.

                      definition of prime
                      of the best possible quality; excellent.
                      a state or time of greatest strength, vigor, or success in a person's life.
                      All the fighters i mentioned could be put in this category

                      You are surely not counting ODLH in those wins right ? considering he fought him 3 years later



                      So how many division did Marquez move up by the time he fought Floyd and how old was he ? catchweight , how about Manny how old how many weight divisions ?, how old was Mosley ?.Canelo was green catchweight .Cotto how many wars did he fight before Floyd ?By your logic all these do not count towards his greatness right ? so who does that leave ?

                      terrible effort



                      Cotto had 2 loses and was on a win streak

                      marquez and floyd spent years only 4 pounds apart from 1996-2002 not the same....floyd started at 130 and fought in the olympics at 125, marquez was a featherweight......ODLH started his career at 130 and was not impressive vs Sturm and hell the size difference was more pronounced than marquez vs mayweather


                      genius......floyd and marquez were past prime, floyd was coming off a 2 year lay off and both were in their 30s


                      Manny was a starved kid at 112, noticed how he skipped to divisons to campaign at 122, he matured into his adult frame and was out of poverty......dude was weighing 138 on fight night for his featherweight fights.....dude you dont know much about boxing at all......growing because of age is not the same as moving up in your late 30s lol

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