Charlo Cheating?

[TonyGe]

The fight should be revisited by the officials for sure.

[ThatDude44]

What water bottle?

Word is the water bottle has to be clear, right? Pac had one thatnwas God knows what color because they had it all taped up.

[_Rexy_]

I think you should look closer at the fact that you are creating some conspiracy theory in your mind over.....

a water bottle.

Like, really give that a good thought.... A. Water. Bottle.

Okay, so a water bottle isn't a big deal. What is? An IV Bag? A needle mark? Speculation?


Here's a question, would it be worthwhile discussing this if it wasn't a Charlo?

[_Rexy_]

why isn't anyone starting a thread on Billy Joe Saunders turning down the Andrade call out because hes involved with victor conte???? isn't that a duck?

Feel free to make that thread. I hadn't heard that one.


Probably because I give two ****s about BJS lol

I made this because I follow Tony, and Tony posted it.

[_Rexy_]

That bottle was transparent, it just had some paper wrapped around it’s circumference.

Anyway, I’ve seen guys drink gatorade/lucozade etc, is Harrison’s beef that this wasn’t agreed on? That the terms was only water, and I’m assuming what you take in the corner is provided to you by either the promoter or commission, and if so, was Charlo’s drink their own mix/drink and that’s the issue? Harrison needs to clear it up. If it’s just it’s illegal to use non-transparent bottle in Cali, then they need to clear it up and act accordingly.

tape on a bottle is allowed. That's just for grip.

You're correct that the commission provides the bottles, sealed, etc. It's illegal to use an opaque bottle due to the fact that anything can be snuck into it. It's happened in the past. Panama Lewis got caught on television giving Arron Pryor a mixed bottle. Mic even picked up him saying "Give me the bottle...no the other bottle, the one I mixed."apparently he had crushed up asthma pills since they will basically open up your lungs and have you breathing normal again.



That video right there is why it's against the rules, and why it's a big deal.

[_Rexy_]

I didn’t realize it was Harrison whom posted it! Lol. I’m like looking at “Detroit” and I thought for a second Harrison, then I look again....lol. I mean if its Harrison focusing on the video this is a real legit case which might need investigation, but as I said earlier, doubt anything will happen.

And that's why I made the thread. Some random pointing it out could have used clips from multiple fights. This is straight from Tony.

And I doubt it too.

[Thuglife Nelo]

And that's why I made the thread. Some random pointing it out could have used clips from multiple fights. This is straight from Tony.

And I doubt it too.

The LDBC are morons. They are questioning if “Gatorade” is allowed. Lol. People still haven’t figured out EXACTLY what Tony has been saying. Nobody knows what was in that Gatorade bottle. He even pointed out he only used it after the 4th. Even if they were SIMPLE electrolytes which means no adverse findings since its not a banned substance, but still, as Harrison said, “an even playing field,” meaning he too wanted some electrolytes too. So in theory yes, its cheating. Athletes use electrolytes, but in boxing and in between rounds then OBVIOUSLY he’s getting a boost for either muscle cramping or soothing. Harrison even hinted that they could’ve used Coconut Juice. These are all real time advantages in competitive sports.

[_Rexy_]

The LDBC are morons. They are questioning if “Gatorade” is allowed. Lol. People still haven’t figured out EXACTLY what Tony has been saying. Nobody knows what was in that Gatorade bottle. He even pointed out he only used it after the 4th. Even if they were SIMPLE electrolytes which means no adverse findings since its not a banned substance, but still, as Harrison said, “an even playing field,” meaning he too wanted some electrolytes too. So in theory yes, its cheating. Athletes use electrolytes, but in boxing and in between rounds then OBVIOUSLY he’s getting a boost for either muscle cramping or soothing. Harrison even hinted that they could’ve used Coconut Juice. These are all real time advantages in competitive sports.

Few pages back I posted the WBC Championship Bout form, and there is a section for a TUE for electrolytes. That said, both camps need to sign off on it.

http://wbcboxing.com/downloads/RULES_FOR_CHAMPIONSHIP_FIGHTS_-_SYNTHESIZED_09.pdf

Both camps need to agree and sign off. But again, anything could have been in that bottle. Standard Asthma pills have a half life of 4-6 hours. How long after a fight are guys tested? Could have been ANYTHING in the bottle, because why would you risk something that you could have easily gotten signed off for?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Few pages back I posted the WBC Championship Bout form, and there is a section for a TUE for electrolytes. That said, both camps need to sign off on it.

http://wbcboxing.com/downloads/RULES_FOR_CHAMPIONSHIP_FIGHTS_-_SYNTHESIZED_09.pdf

Both camps need to agree and sign off. But again, anything could have been in that bottle. Standard Asthma pills have a half life of 4-6 hours. How long after a fight are guys tested? Could have been ANYTHING in the bottle, because why would you risk something that you could have easily gotten signed off for?

I don’t think its anything that would pop up on the banned list. Remember they need to submit blood and urine in the locker room after the fight, about 30 minutes after leaving the ring. They would easily find an adverse finding if it was something on the banned list. But remember its PBC. Thurman vs Pac didn’t have VADA testing. Both fighters agreed to this. They did regular commission testing.

We all know electrolytes pack a ton of sugar, the nature of sports drinks.

Again, I think Harrison is just saying that he too should’ve gotten a “Gatorade bottle too.”

[_Rexy_]

I don’t think its anything that would pop up on the banned list. Remember they need to submit blood and urine in the locker room after the fight, about 30 minutes after leaving the ring. They would easily find an adverse finding if it was something on the banned list. But remember its PBC. Thurman vs Pac didn’t have VADA testing. Both fighters agreed to this. They did regular commission testing.

We all know electrolytes pack a ton of sugar, the nature of sports drinks.

Again, I think Harrison is just saying that he too should’ve gotten a “Gatorade bottle too.”

was there VADA for this bout? or was it just the California commission?