How come Manny could NEVER KO Marquez? 5,6, 7 fights a Charm?

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  • KillaMane26
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    #51
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Floyd was about 107 in the amateurs and climbed the same amount of weight as Manny did in 15 year span. Floyd has a higher KO percentage from 140 and up. Floyd was the one caught with an illegal IV.
    #1 Manny's KO streak was exaggerated even to this day! He only flatlined Diaz and Hatton.

    So i never get why people always brought it up. I think it was moreso about him having damn near a 3rd prime at 147 from Cotto to Margarito fight. He was putting on more weight, was more explosive and was walking through punches from big 147lbers.... When he wasn't at lower weights.

    Example take the version that fought Cotto and put him in the ring with Oscar... He would have killed Oscar lol.

    And i brought up how Floyd looked when he got out of jail cuz he seemed alot faster, and had better legs than b4 he went in. I remb. Thinking he looked he sipped from the fountain of youth. Lol.

    At the end of the day... We have no proof of PEDS on neither sides. IV or not

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      #52
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      He wasn’t ‘roided up like Marquez was for that fourth fight (and like your boy Canelo). Note, when JMM was asked for a 5th fight that would include VADA testing, he said not even for $100M. All you need to know.
      Provide official proof or shut STFU with your lies, noob.

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      • Mrsantiago
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        #53
        [QUOTE=Gigantes;20379645]ain't it funny how people try to say "Marquez was roided just as much as Pacquiao was", yet where's the evidence Pacquiao was ever roiding? Did Pacquiao ever hire a known steroid cheat for his trainer?

        Actually he did and had some of his better performances under him btw is the same guy peanut head Floyd hired when he beat pac that you seem to include and conveniently forget at the same time.

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          #54
          [QUOTE=Mrsantiago;20380249]
          Originally posted by Gigantes
          ain't it funny how people try to say "Marquez was roided just as much as Pacquiao was", yet where's the evidence Pacquiao was ever roiding? Did Pacquiao ever hire a known steroid cheat for his trainer?

          Actually he did and had some of his better performances under him btw is the same guy peanut head Floyd hired when he beat pac that you seem to include and conveniently forget at the same time.
          Did JMM's test come back positive ?

          Pac knocked JMM down a bunch of times
          Badass JMM kept getting up

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            #55
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            #1 Manny's KO streak was exaggerated even to this day! He only flatlined Diaz and Hatton.

            So i never get why people always brought it up. I think it was moreso about him having damn near a 3rd prime at 147 from Cotto to Margarito fight. He was putting on more weight, was more explosive and was walking through punches from big 147lbers.... When he wasn't at lower weights.

            Example take the version that fought Cotto and put him in the ring with Oscar... He would have killed Oscar lol.

            And i brought up how Floyd looked when he got out of jail cuz he seemed alot faster, and had better legs than b4 he went in. I remb. Thinking he looked he sipped from the fountain of youth. Lol.

            At the end of the day... We have no proof of PEDS on neither sides. IV or not
            HGH is a real thing bruh. Look at Floyd or Canelo in their teen pictures, they are relatively the same with physiques. Floyd looks your general All American African American Athlete, and Canelo looks your stocky football teen. Both Canelo and Floyd at 13 look thin as they should. However, look at PAC at 19 years of age from that famous Swedish photography whom took those black and white pics of Pac in his gym. Pacquiao is skinny, like most Thai or Filipino fighters would look like. Pac then later on started to grow abnormally, particularly his head.

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            • KillaMane26
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              #56
              Originally posted by Young Bidness
              HGH is a real thing bruh. Look at Floyd or Canelo in their teen pictures, they are relatively the same with physiques. Floyd looks your general All American African American Athlete, and Canelo looks your stocky football teen. Both Canelo and Floyd at 13 look thin as they should. However, look at PAC at 19 years of age from that famous Swedish photography whom took those black and white pics of Pac in his gym. Pacquiao is skinny, like most Thai or Filipino fighters would look like. Pac then later on started to grow abnormally, particularly his head.

              I love Manny to death but come on... He hit his 2nd prime at 147! I remb how Steward kept saying how different he looked.

              Then what makes me laugh is how Pac fans have the audacity to call Marquez out for PEDs and call out Floyd. But refuse to even entertain the idea that Manny was juiced, clinging to the fact he never was caught, when Marquez was never caught with PEDS neither

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                #57
                Originally posted by KillaMane26
                I love Manny to death but come on... He hit his 2nd prime at 147! I remb how Steward kept saying how different he looked.

                Then what makes me laugh is how Pac fans have the audacity to call Marquez out for PEDs and call out Floyd. But refuse to even entertain the idea that Manny was juiced, clinging to the fact he never was caught, when Marquez was never caught with PEDS neither
                Cmon bruh. Brush up on your history. Floyd changed the game with random blood and urine AND PRE FIGHT TESTING! Floyd made Vegas happy. Do you remember back in the day when Chuck Minter ran the NSAC? Bruh, he literally said that there was NO NEED for PROCEDURE to check for Steroids. When Toney was on the roids, was he influenced and convinced under Stewards' camp or Roach's? Steward insinuated that Leonard was on the Roids…

                VADA was SPECIFICALLY CREATED for HBO in 2011. Do you know how many scandals would've unfolded had it been general procedure during HBO's Golden Age? HBO was the defecto cable SUB boxing outlet, of course they would turn their shoulder during the 80-90s when Steroids was an American past time in commercial mainstream sports. But not in boxing? Surely not..

                Reason.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Young Bidness
                  Cmon bruh. Brush up on your history. Floyd changed the game with random blood and urine AND PRE FIGHT TESTING! Floyd made Vegas happy. Do you remember back in the day when Chuck Minter ran the NSAC? Bruh, he literally said that there was NO NEED for PROCEDURE to check for Steroids. When Toney was on the roids, was he influenced and convinced under Stewards' camp or Roach's? Steward insinuated that Leonard was on the Roids…

                  VADA was SPECIFICALLY CREATED for HBO in 2011. Do you know how many scandals would've unfolded had it been general procedure during HBO's Golden Age? HBO was the defecto cable SUB boxing outlet, of course they would turn their shoulder during the 80-90s when Steroids was an American past time in commercial mainstream sports. But not in boxing? Surely not..

                  Reason.
                  Wait..... I wasn't disagreeing tho

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                  • Gigantes
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LADIV
                    the only reason pac is still fighting is because he said in an interview that his government salary is not enough to support his family...marquez is rich beyond belief in mexico and does not need to fight anymore
                    Whereas pac that's a different story...pac hired alex Ariza a good friend of memo and which in return roach accused Ariza of giving pac unknown substances in those Ariza shakes..once ariza left so did the knockouts for pac coinsidense you tell me...with that being said ydksab
                    lol sure, whatever you say buddy, what i find hilarious is we have spell check in this time and age and yet you can't even spell coincidence. you're the one who doesn't know shi*

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                      #60
                      a lot of triggered people here coming with their capes on. saying a bunch of nonsense. bet these are those same idiots who hire a hooker only to look at her

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