How come Manny could NEVER KO Marquez? 5,6, 7 fights a Charm?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #41
    Originally posted by Robi13
    Marquez is a warrior, pac was careras coming in when he got caught. Anyone would get ktfo in that situation, Marquez wasn’t careless
    Not anyone.

    Porter took quite a few No Look Hooks™ while rushing in on Danny, Bradley caught Manny with a very similar shot in the second fight, Horn caught Manny with a shot coming in (which is what caused Manny to go tentative) and Crawford ate a hook coming in on Kavaliauskas. None of those resulted in knockouts.

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    • boliodogs
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      #42
      Originally posted by Young Bidness
      It took Marquez 4 tries to KHimTFO. THey met at 126, 130, 147x2.
      Nobody ever KOed Marquez in his very long career against many punchers. So what? is there some point to your thread or is this just another boxer hate threads like the ones you start so often about GGG, the Charlos, Loma and Spence. Marquez refused a 3th fight and turned down huge money for a 5th fight. Pacquiao would have defeated him and maybe even knocked him out in a 5th fight.

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      • AllBoxingAD
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        #43
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        Nope, wrong again. Manny’s transformation was identical to Floyd’s....so you are admitting Floyd was juicing too.
        Oh so if JMM turns down fights over testing, its proof he is hiding something, but when Pac does the EXACT same, its something completely trustworthy.

        Its ridiculous.

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        • j0zef
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          #44
          Nobody else has KOd JMM either.

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            #45
            Originally posted by NearHypnos
            It’s not about the money. JMM got an iconic victory and that’s it. He closed that book and every time they ask him about it he gets that little smile on him. He’s feasting off tears til the end of his life.

            What does Canelo even have to do with this? Lmao.


            JMM was only as roided as Pac was. That’s why no one cared to see it again. How much better can you possibly beat a man outside of disconnecting him from his senses? Think a little. JMM was the better fighter. Nothing wrong with it. Styles make fights. You can argue the decisions but not KO. Let it go dude
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            Anyone who turns down $100M is hiding something. His transformation from prior fights cannot be ignored.

            Canelo is thread starter’s favorite fighter in case you haven’t noticed. Maybe Marquez was eating some of that tainted beef too.

            JMM was not the better fighter. He lost two their fights and the first one PAC was robbed because a judge didn’t count one of the knockdowns. Marquez was getting beat in that fourth fight, on his way out in another round or two with a broken beak. Landed his Hail Mary and denied PAC a rematch. After PAC granted him two he didn’t need to offer. JMM is a coward and a cheat. Cry baby too, always claiming he was robbed when he loses.
            Chest acne = juice

            Back acne = ?

            They were both juiced. In fact Manny is the one whose head grew in late 20s..

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              #46
              Dont know who could have KO'd Marquez in his time. It's not just the chin but the recovery. Man had absolutely insane ability to recover from getting hurt and dropped

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                #47
                Originally posted by revelated
                Not anyone.

                Porter took quite a few No Look Hooks™ while rushing in on Danny, Bradley caught Manny with a very similar shot in the second fight, Horn caught Manny with a shot coming in (which is what caused Manny to go tentative) and Crawford ate a hook coming in on Kavaliauskas. None of those resulted in knockouts.
                The type of punch Manny got hit was not like any of your examples! Only guys with ATG chins would have survived that!

                Remb. In Marquez vs Pac fight 2... Marquez got coming in by Manny which stumbled him.... That was closer to your examples than the right Manny jumped into.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Nope, wrong again. Manny’s transformation was identical to Floyd’s....so you are admitting Floyd was juicing too.
                  No it wasn't lol. But the closest would be how Floyd looked when he got out of jail imo

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by KillaMane26
                    No it wasn't lol. But the closest would be how Floyd looked when he got out of jail imo
                    Floyd was about 107 in the amateurs and climbed the same amount of weight as Manny did in 15 year span. Floyd has a higher KO percentage from 140 and up. Floyd was the one caught with an illegal IV.

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                    • NearHypnos
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Gigantes
                      ain't it funny how people try to say "Marquez was roided just as much as Pacquiao was", yet where's the evidence Pacquiao was ever roiding? Did Pacquiao ever hire a known steroid cheat for his trainer? Is Pacquiao still fighting while Marquez and the woman beater *floyd aren't due to their body breakdown from the steroids? Just look how fast Marquez's body deteriorated once he took steroids. Not even 3 years, and his knees broke down

                      Just looking at my sig, you can see the roid rage in Marquez. Bradley wasn't even doing anything but the roid rage got the best of Marquez
                      Your entire post applies to Pac...and his sudden loss of power post testing....and his own coach Ariza saying he knew for a fact he took PEDs. Dude come on. Youre a grown ass man acting like this. Tossing out the same accusations to one like we all forgot about the other’s.

                      “Lolol where’s the evidence Pac cheated!? Lol -accuses Marquez despite zero evidence outside of literally growing into the same weight class as Pac despite them being the same size.”

                      Jeez... one guy can put on muscle but not someone else.

                      And it points to why they’re not fighting? Maybe theyre just perfectly well off and went out on high notes. Why would Floyd keep fighting at his age, pristine record, and massive financial earnings?

                      Why would JMM fight Pac again? He stopped him.

                      But just so for the lols...Know what helps ya recover and can keep you competing at a high level despite age?

                      Look, I’m not accusing Pac of taking...but as high a profile as he is and Thurman, there was no testing? With the kind of money they make? I will say I wouldn't be surprised.
                      Last edited by NearHypnos; 02-09-2020, 10:04 PM.

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