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do white collar criminals ever get caught? they know how to use and abuse the system to their benefit. that imo is my whole argument about what is bigger. some common guy putting plaster in his wraps is obviously bad but a guy who essentially controls the system and enables ways to get away with cheating is far worse. the commision said what he did shouldn't have happened but they didnt actually do anything beyond saying that. its like a politician who is funded by big oil what a shock they want to drill for oil/make pipelines etc... usada was paid off to the tune of 150k and what do you know it, he gets a tue for a "physical ailment" i mean come on. you should need to show just cause for doing something that extreme, not some vague physical ailment. its so blatant that they dont even have to come up with good answers. they know they will get away with it. they also know fans are so partisan that their side will overlook it. just like politics...vote to block all the evidence from being shown then turn around and say there's no evidence he must be innocent! but you just...Comment
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Hey bro I can see what u are saying here and u arent wrong , we just cant prove this so I cant get behind it , it's just not in my nature I think floyd is likely getting away with murder , no disagreement from me , but likely doesnt mean IS . That's all iam saying . I see your analogy with white collar and blue collar but a man died with resto Collins becuase the cheating destroyed him . He took his own life . No matter its white collar or blue collar that's far worse .I mean Floyd's alleged cheating will make more money and maybe that's why it was possibly cleared up in his favour after the fact( which was shady AF but he got the tue which pisses me right off , but if he got the tue for test I'd be singing a differnt tune not saline water and vitamins ) but no one lost their life and it cant be proven ( even if thats becuase the commission and USADA had their tongues up his ass ) . The fact is there was no ban , no punishment etc . Is that ****ed up ?? Hell yes . Does it make me slightly hate the sport I love ?? yes . But it doesnt make floyd one of the worst cheaters in boxing history when there are such worse offenses as examples , white collar or blue color cheating is cheating imho but cheating isnt cheating without a conviction it is speculation based of opinion , but for whatever reason it was cleared . Floyd is 90%on steroids as are 90% of boxers but if I cant prove it , I cant point my finger and god damn Floyd's team seem to be very crafty . Btw iam not supporting it and argued for days in another friend that it was shady and floyd is a peice of **** . But he isnt one of the biggest cheats in boxing history imo I cant label him that iv or not . Hes one of the shadiest mf in boxing history yes . That I can get behindComment
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B...bu...but this thread is about the biggest cheats in boxing history, and those are the names that came out of your mind first?
So nope. They’re not the biggest cheats. Diego chavez fight in a specific way but no way a cheat. Hatton is a pressure fighter who clinches a lot and keeps on coming inside until you fold. That’s not cheating. Dude never even won due to a low blow like wrestling ward.
Guerrero? Nope. Maidana? Aside from his fight with floyd dude fights pretty clean.. he didn’t even butt floyd like ortiz did.. he just fought rough against a great defensive fighter.
Not fans of these guys, but i gotta defend them on these kinds of threads because they’re not one of boxing’s biggest cheats in history.Comment
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Any infighting involves cheating according to the snowflake generation, just look at any fight involving infighting and you'll see head bumps, holding, arm grabbing, pushing and so on. The point is one eyed fans only see what the other boxer does, never their own. That's the problem with 'dirty fighting', fan bias..Comment
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