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  • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
    SRL going life and death with Castillo, Sosa and Ndou😂😂 GTFOH...

    Floyd would get KTFO by a prime Hearns, he ain’t getting past that jab.

    Keep working for your master brother...

    HARD WORK!!! DEDICATION!!!

    YDKSAB🤣🤣🤣
    And instead of admitting your wrong, you try to be slick. I said a LIGHTWEIGHT version of SRL, and I also gave Floyd SRL's height and reach. A natural sized ww version of Floyd is going to do far more than get past Hearns jab. The fight would be a mismatch. I actually think blown up welterweight Floyd would land at will on Hearns. Hearns lost to SRL, and SRL aint no Floyd, no matter how big he is.

    Imagine SRL in Floyd's body, going to hell and back with Genero and Diego LOL

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    • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
      SRL vs Tyson great matchup.

      Really displaying some excellent boxing knowledge.😂
      And not one single response to a word I said. Your naming all the "killers" SRL faced, to try to stand his legacy next to Floyd. He could go and fight a heavyweight, and his legacy would still look like doodoo next to Floyd's LOL

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      • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
        It goes beyond facing this guy or that guy in their prime. Floyd's overall CAREER is unlike anything we have ever seen. He is just too dominant and perfect, and consistent to be compared to anyone else.

        For me, because Pac and Cotto being past their prime, I dont even think much of those victories tbh. If we speaking resume only, he has a great overall resume, but when he got old, the opponents got bigger and younger, and Floyd was masterful. Guy was 37yrs old and 150lbs, his opponents were 23, 25, etc, and 165lbs. He should've been KO'd inside of 5 rounds, yet he embarrassed them!

        SRL could've faced Tyson, and that wouldnt do anything for him to be anywhere near Floyd!
        That’s why he has a better case as TBE (and for me he is), than as a GOAT. He explained it himself when comparing himself to Ali. Yes he referred to Ali as the GOAT.
        If you’re a boxing fan you’d know the difference between those two acronyms as well.

        The best ever when it comes to consistency really second to none, punch stats, accuracy and tools to handle other styles. The best ever when it comes to his boxing IQ and knowledge. Probably the best package with little error to none.

        Being the GOAT is another story, it transcends beyond what can just be measured, and to beat great fighters at their very best to back that up. If we just look at it on paper then Floyd’s resume easily achieves achieves the latter. But if we’re really gonna dissect everything, and put all attention to details, then nope. I’m sure many new fans of the sport will also claim him as the goat, as they will only look on floyd’s resume and be amazed.. but when you’re in that very era you’d know the truth behind every fight. And it’s hard for me to put blind eye on an era I was so passionate about.

        I’m a floyd fan, but i know for real that he didn’t fight the best version of oscar, of manny, of cotto. I know fo real that he didn’t make weight and bullied marquez two divisions up.
        I know for real that he fought at 154 many times and then fought canelo at 152.

        I know for real that maidana was getting schooled easy by alexander.. but gave floyd a good fight.

        We can point fingers all we want why those best fights didn’t happened at the time they were at their very best, but a certain point you gotta see a pattern. I mean you fight who you fight some greats in history also benefitted from past prime fighters but in the end, their best wins are against great prime fighters too.

        (When floyd was rising up it was a different story. He took on everyone no questions ask)

        but during his star days? Man, the fight that mattered is always the next one.

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        • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
          And instead of admitting your wrong, you try to be slick. I said a LIGHTWEIGHT version of SRL, and I also gave Floyd SRL's height and reach. A natural sized ww version of Floyd is going to do far more than get past Hearns jab. The fight would be a mismatch. I actually think blown up welterweight Floyd would land at will on Hearns. Hearns lost to SRL, and SRL aint no Floyd, no matter how big he is.

          Imagine SRL in Floyd's body, going to hell and back with Genero and Diego LOL
          A flyweight version of SRL beats guys like Ndou and Sosa.

          You’re a clown kid.

          Now chant for your master:

          HARD WORK!!! DEDICATION!!!

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          • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            And not one single response to a word I said. Your naming all the "killers" SRL faced, to try to stand his legacy next to Floyd. He could go and fight a heavyweight, and his legacy would still look like doodoo next to Floyd's LOL
            His legacy far surpasses Floyd’s.

            Better wins, better resume, better fighter.

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            • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
              A flyweight version of SRL beats guys like Ndou and Sosa.

              You’re a clown kid.

              Now chant for your master:

              HARD WORK!!! DEDICATION!!!
              If you felt you were wrong, then you should've just given me props and leave it their. Why such pride? Why pick Ndou and Sosa? A 135lb version of SRL goes to hell and back with all the guys Floyd humiliated. A 37yr old SRL, at 150lbs, would get beaten to a bloody pulp by a 23yr old 165lb Canelo. Their is no one in the history of the sport that could mimic what Floyd did, not even close. If your a fan of the sport, pay homage. Dont lie and twist words out of spite!

              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
              His legacy far surpasses Floyd’s.

              Better wins, better resume, better fighter.
              No one's legacy will ever surpass Floyd. Floyd was just too perfect and dominant, and if you felt SRL had better wins, thats not enough to get him anywhere near Floyd. No one is getting anywhere near Floyd.

              If SRL was better than Floyd, how come he didnt walk down Hearns without getting touched? How come he rarely dominated any great fighters, besides a cherrypicked Duran, who beat him first?

              Some of Floyd's easiest opponents, SRL at the same disadvantages, wouldnt even face them.

              SRL wouldnt be 37 facing guys 15lbs bigger than him and 10yrs younger. He dont even have the nuts that Floyd had!

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              • Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                Floyd Mayweather's defense was more economical and efficient 'James Toney's defense comes close to Mayweather's, but he did not have Mayweather's movement capabilities'.

                Pernell Whitaker had a great defense, but swaying your body all over the show is not really economical.
                Toney's defense is no where even close to the levels of a Mayweather or Whitaker.

                Completely different levels.

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                • Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                  That’s why he has a better case as TBE (and for me he is), than as a GOAT. He explained it himself when comparing himself to Ali. Yes he referred to Ali as the GOAT.
                  If you’re a boxing fan you’d know the difference between those two acronyms as well.

                  The best ever when it comes to consistency really second to none, punch stats, accuracy and tools to handle other styles. The best ever when it comes to his boxing IQ and knowledge. Probably the best package with little error to none.

                  Being the GOAT is another story, it transcends beyond what can just be measured, and to beat great fighters at their very best to back that up. If we just look at it on paper then Floyd’s resume easily achieves achieves the latter. But if we’re really gonna dissect everything, and put all attention to details, then nope. I’m sure many new fans of the sport will also claim him as the goat, as they will only look on floyd’s resume and be amazed.. but when you’re in that very era you’d know the truth behind every fight. And it’s hard for me to put blind eye on an era I was so passionate about.

                  I’m a floyd fan, but i know for real that he didn’t fight the best version of oscar, of manny, of cotto. I know fo real that he didn’t make weight and bullied marquez two divisions up.
                  I know for real that he fought at 154 many times and then fought canelo at 152.

                  I know for real that maidana was getting schooled easy by alexander.. but gave floyd a good fight.

                  We can point fingers all we want why those best fights didn’t happened at the time they were at their very best, but a certain point you gotta see a pattern. I mean you fight who you fight some greats in history also benefitted from past prime fighters but in the end, their best wins are against great prime fighters too.

                  (When floyd was rising up it was a different story. He took on everyone no questions ask)

                  but during his star days? Man, the fight that mattered is always the next one.
                  Floyd didnt explain shyt! He simply claimed that TBE was a nickname he created just how GOAT was a nickname Ali created.

                  Had nothing to do with anything.

                  Floyd actually has one of toughest resumes in the history of the sport, because of circumstantial disadvantages. He was 38yrs old and 148lbs, and fighting men who were 26yrs old and 165lbs. Put SRL at those circumstances and he wouldnt even take those fights.

                  Floyd was literally embarrassing and walking those guys down and he should've been KO'd inside of 3 rounds tbh. Ali needs more than just Foreman, Frazier, and Liston. For me, he would have to at least walk them all down without getting touched, but its asking too much of fighters to try to be as good as Floyd, because what Floyd did was impossible.

                  "I know foreal that Floyd did this, and didnt do that" I dont want to hear that fake nitpicky bs. I wish a 37yr old SRL could literally embarrass men who are way too big and young for him.

                  NOBODY will ever do what Floyd did against that quality of opposition, literally get older and smaller, while the opponents get bigger, and younger, and embarrass them all.

                  And you talking about Chino facing a 38yr old Mayweather. Your going to have bad nights, especially when your old like Floyd, and fighting back to back tough fights against guys who are really too big and young for you.

                  But when Floyd has a tough night, he still wins. When others have a tough night, they lose. Not only that, but how many tough nights vs good nights, did Floyd have?

                  90% of the time, Floyd is pure perfection. 10% of the time, he gets hit, and gets a W.

                  Not only that, but Floyd has literally embarrassed fighters 10 times better than Chino, and MORE OFTEN TOO, yet you want to take that to prove a point. You being fake now buddy!

                  This man is astonishing, and completely shyts on guys like Ali man, Im sorry.

                  Then you talk about Oscar, Manny, and Cotto. Man Idgaf about those fights. The fights that made Floyd is when he was getting older and dominating men too big and young for him. Dude is goat, without a question!
                  Last edited by MurkaMan; 03-22-2020, 10:25 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                    Floyd didnt explain shyt! He simply claimed that TBE was a nickname he created just how GOAT was a nickname Ali created.

                    Had nothing to do with anything.

                    Floyd actually has one of toughest resumes in the history of the sport, because of circumstantial disadvantages. He was 38yrs old and 148lbs, and fighting men who were 26yrs old and 165lbs. Put SRL at those circumstances and he wouldnt even take those fights.

                    Floyd was literally embarrassing and walking those guys down and he should've been KO'd inside of 3 rounds tbh. Ali needs more than just Foreman, Frazier, and Liston. For me, he would have to at least walk them all down without getting touched, but its asking too much of fighters to try to be as good as Floyd, because what Floyd did was impossible.

                    "I know foreal that Floyd did this, and didnt do that" I dont want to hear that fake nitpicky bs. I wish a 37yr old SRL could literally embarrass men who are way too big and young for him.

                    NOBODY will ever do what Floyd did against that quality of opposition, literally get older and smaller, while the opponents get bigger, and younger, and embarrass them all.

                    And you talking about Chino facing a 38yr old Mayweather. Your going to have bad nights, especially when your old like Floyd, and fighting back to back tough fights against guys who are really too big and young for you.

                    But when Floyd has a tough night, he still wins. When others have a tough night, they lose. Not only that, but how many tough nights vs good nights, did Floyd have?

                    90% of the time, Floyd is pure perfection. 10% of the time, he gets hit, and gets a W.

                    Not only that, but Floyd has literally embarrassed fighters 10 times better than Chino, and MORE OFTEN TOO, yet you want to take that to prove a point. You being fake now buddy!

                    This man is astonishing, and completely shyts on guys like Ali man, Im sorry.

                    Then you talk about Oscar, Manny, and Cotto. Man Idgaf about those fights. The fights that made Floyd is when he was getting older and dominating men too big and young for him. Dude is goat, without a question!

                    Like I said I agree floyd is tbe,
                    But what is floyd’s best win???
                    Hmmm

                    Manny at 36? 6 years too late and planked earlier by Marquez? Only a dummy would say pac is still at his prime at 36. Are you one of them?

                    Canelo at 23? At 152? (This is the big dude you’re referring to right?)

                    Oscar at 36? 1 fight in two years? Part time promoter?

                    Cotto after two career ending beatings?

                    Mosley at 38? 3-3 in his last 6 fights?

                    Marquez whom he cheated on the scales and made he climbed two divisions up?

                    What is his best win.. please.
                    A goat certainly gotta have a best win against a prime atg.

                    And please don’t say “IDGAF” give
                    Me an answer.
                    Last edited by dibzvincent143; 03-22-2020, 11:09 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                      Like I said I agree floyd is tbe,
                      But what is floyd’s best win???
                      Hmmm

                      Manny at 36? 6 years too late and planked earlier by Marquez? Only a dummy would say pac is still at his prime at 36. Are you one of them?

                      Canelo at 23? At 152? (This is the big dude you’re referring to right?)

                      Oscar at 36?

                      Cotto after two career ending beatings?

                      Mosley at 38? 3-3 in his last 6 fights?

                      Marquez whom he cheated on the scales and made he climbed two divisions up?

                      What is his best win.. please.
                      A goat certainly gotta have a best win against a prime atg.

                      And please don’t say “IDGAF” give
                      Me an answer.
                      You need to reread my comment. I went into great detail about the astonishing dominance Floyd displayed over guys who should've KO'd him in 3 rounds.

                      You mentioned Canelo like he was at some disadvantage. He should've destroyed Floyd before the final bell. Floyd was way too old and small to be in the ring with him, and he did the impossible with the amount of dominance he showed.

                      Your not here to talk boxing, your hear to nitpick Mayweather, but when I shatter your argument, you start trolling and literally ignoring everything I said.

                      Go back and read my post a bit more slow, then respond to me. We can talk about it if you want to, but you must actually read my post. Not rush to respond just because Im giving him proper credit!

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