Why is there so much hate on NSB for GGG?

[Robi13]

Trivial, subjective designations mean nothing to me, and to any serious, fair-minded person they mean nothing or very little.

Canelo may get bonus points at the end of the day, because of where he is from and how 'helped' he was along the way because of his star power...but as fighters...Canelo isn't in the same league as GGG...GGG earned his stripes the hard way, Canelo has basically always been able to fight opponents who have 1 hand tied behind their back.

Still a great fighter but if anyone is objective it's not really close as far as who the better fighter is...GGG proved that twice, and at the tail end of his career vs Canelo's prime...fair to point out though that Canelo moved up in weight to take those 2 fights though...but when you combine Canelo's PED issues and weight 'bullying'/going up to 168/175 etc...he doesn't exactly get a lot of credit as the 'smaller' man moving up to face the bigger man.

Speak with facts not with your emotions. Canelo is an all time great. 4 division champ, only him and Armstrong have had 3 titles simultaneously in 3 weight classes, and so on... ggg is 2-1-1 against real opponents and he can be 0-4 😂

[Robi13]

It aint hate... Its disappointment.... And Canelo is hated just as much he just has enough fanboys to even it out

Tell us killa, who has had the better career? Accomplishments? Who is the better fighter in your opinion?

[GhostofDempsey]

Boxing fans today are very tribal. If they are fans of particular fighters that means they can never see any of the good in that fighter’s rivals. The GGG haters usually go hand in hand with the Manny haters, Loma haters, and Crawford haters to a lesser extent. They are mostly Floyd, Ward, and PBC loyalists. Casuals to be more precise, not true fans of boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

Boxers much better than ggg get significantly more hate from nsb so I think it’s ok if people don’t like ggg.

Why is it wrong not to like ggg?

[Boxing_1013]

Dominance? Lol see this is exactly what I mean, you ggg fans think he is something he isn’t period... who he dominate? In his only 4 legit bouts he is 2-1-1 with 0 ko’s... that’s what you call dominance? Your standards are very low.

He won, idk, 15 straight fights by KO...all vs very good pro fighters...that is really exceptional, in any era, in any division...if he was going life and death with David Lemieux or Willie Monroe Jr or Macklin took him 12 rounds...if any one of those guys won any rounds really vs GGG, then yeah I may agree that he was oversold...but from what he did, no I don't think he was.

Yes in his 4 biggest fights you could argue he didn't quite live up to the reputation some ascribed to him...I think Canelo 1 and Jacobs, they just came to survive...and those were clear Ws for GGG...still could have done more there though.

Fight 2 with Canelo was a great fight where we saw someone for the first time hold the center of the ring vs GGG...was very impressive for Canelo...but at the same time GGG still outworked Canelo basically every round and won another clear decision.

The SD fight was his toughest and a 7-5 either way type fight imho...a fair-minded person could say that those 4 fights perhaps came towards the tail end of his dominant period and that could excuse why he wasn't quite as dominant there as before.

Obviously those 4 fights were his 4 of his toughest as well...so at any age, he would have had more issues with those versions of those fighters than the average fight he had.

And you kind of prove my point btw with your post and other posts about GGG...people were/are so threatened by the 'boogeyman' status of GGG, that they are unable to give him his due in all of those fights, and score them appropriately.

They are so eager to try and diminish GGG, because apparently they feel very threatened by him, that they try and say he lost fights that he merely lost maybe 4 rounds in.

And let's be clear - it's not just about some people, in your opinion, 'overhyping' him...if someone is getting overhyped, that doesn't elicit hatred towards them...it may elicit derision, and disbelief...people may laugh and say 'hey man, this guy sucks, who cares'...but the type of emotion people show/showed towards GGG was hatred and anger, which is just a response to feeling threatened really.

[Robi13]

He won, idk, 15 straight fights by KO...all vs very good pro fighters...that is really exceptional, in any era, in any division...if he was going life and death with David Lemieux or Willie Monroe Jr or Macklin took him 12 rounds...if any one of those guys won any rounds really vs GGG, then yeah I may agree that he was oversold...but from what he did, no I don't think he was.

Yes in his 4 biggest fights you could argue he didn't quite live up to the reputation some ascribed to him...I think Canelo 1 and Jacobs, they just came to survive...and those were clear Ws for GGG...still could have done more there though.

Fight 2 with Canelo was a great fight where we saw someone for the first time hold the center of the ring vs GGG...was very impressive for Canelo...but at the same time GGG still outworked Canelo basically every round and won another clear decision.

The SD fight was his toughest and a 7-5 either way type fight imho...a fair-minded person could say that those 4 fights perhaps came towards the tail end of his dominant period and that could excuse why he wasn't quite as dominant there as before.

Obviously those 4 fights were his 4 of his toughest as well...so at any age, he would have had more issues with those versions of those fighters than the average fight he had.

And you kind of prove my point btw with your post and other posts about GGG...people were/are so threatened by the 'boogeyman' status of GGG, that they are unable to give him his due in all of those fights, and score them appropriately.

They are so eager to try and diminish GGG, because apparently they feel very threatened by him, that they try and say he lost fights that he merely lost maybe 4 rounds in.

And let's be clear - it's not just about some people, in your opinion, 'overhyping' him...if someone is getting overhyped, that doesn't elicit hatred towards them...it may elicit derision, and disbelief...people may laugh and say 'hey man, this guy sucks, who cares'...but the type of emotion people show/showed towards GGG was hatred and anger, which is just a response to feeling threatened really.

Fact is canelo beat him and ggg isn’t as good as the product hbo sold you guys... facts the rest don’t matter

[Boxing_1013]

Dominance? Lol see this is exactly what I mean, you ggg fans think he is something he isn’t period... who he dominate? In his only 4 legit bouts he is 2-1-1 with 0 ko’s... that’s what you call dominance? Your standards are very low.

For example...Ryan Garcia is pretty clearly overhyped at this point...I thought Ward was overhyped/overrated...Canelo a bit so early in his career...and even now probably still a bit overhyped.

But I have no personal animus towards any of those guys...they got hype for certain reasons and it is what it is...I don't hate any of them lol...I think they get a little more credit than they deserve, and in a just world I think they would get a lesson or two to bring their value down to where it should be imho.

I don't waste any time thinking about it though...I just go on with my life, and I ever make a comment about any of them, I mention their good qualities as a boxer twice as often as any negatives associated with them.

[Boxing_1013]

Fact is canelo beat him and ggg isn’t as good as the product hbo sold you guys... facts the rest don’t matter

Canelo did beat him on some judges cards in Vegas...this is true...if you really want to tell yourself Canelo won either of those fights, go ahead...in that case I wouldn't think you keep it very real and are being tribal...but you would be in good company on this site and in this world so I'm not mad at you buddy.

[Robi13]

For example...Ryan Garcia is pretty clearly overhyped at this point...I thought Ward was overhyped/overrated...Canelo a bit so early in his career...and even now probably still a bit overhyped.

But I have no personal animus towards any of those guys...they got hype for certain reasons and it is what it is...I don't hate any of them lol...I think they get a little more credit than they deserve, and in a just world I think they would get a lesson or two to bring their value down to where it should be imho.

I don't waste any time thinking about it though...I just go on with my life, and I ever make a comment about any of them, I mention their good qualities as a boxer twice as often as any negatives associated with them.

That’s good for you, that’s the way it should be.

[Robi13]

Canelo did beat him on some judges cards in Vegas...this is true...if you really want to tell yourself Canelo won either of those fights, go ahead...in that case I wouldn't think you keep it very real and are being tribal...but you would be in good company on this site and in this world so I'm not mad at you buddy.

Well that’s your opinion ... facts are facts, so who is being “tribal”? Just because you don’t want to accept that he lost to canelo doesn’t make your belief that he beat canelo true does it? What’s the fact again? Canelo beat him... I’m keeping it real, who isn’t?