How would this version of Joan Guzman do against Manny at 122?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #21
    Guzman was a damn good fighter in the mid 00’s, I wish we would’ve got the Scott Harrison fight, I’m sure it nearly happened at some point.

    I’d take Pac though, it would be an action packed, explosive fight whilst it lasted but Pacquiao has a deeper and more diverse arsenal. Pac by mid to late stoppage.

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    • Spray_resistant
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      Guzman was pretty damn slick and awkward, Pac might have some early trouble with him but would pick him to eventually overwhelm Guzman with that pace and volume for a late stoppage.

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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum
        they weren't even in the same division and now manny's ducking raheem lol. with enough time people feel comfortable making up anything.

        as for guzman the fight should have happened at 130. they were both top 3 guys but manny fought jorge solis instead. that was probably the biggest miss of his career(not counting floyd since floyd didnt want to fight)
        I think hes just new to the sport bro . Seems like a pretty humble guy . Yes manny fought solis instead they were talking about manny guzman is vancouver canada at the time at 130 that's right . My memory was telling me 135 . When the fight really should have happened was in 2000-2002 . That was a close matchup . That was just before manny moved up to featherweight and started his Apex tare with Barrera. one of the best runs in boxing history . But at super bantam I giv Guzman a shot for sure . Not saying he would win tho
        Last edited by NORMNEALON; 02-06-2020, 03:08 AM.

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          #24
          LMAO at people here talking about ducking as if they were following Manny's career. Did somebody just mention Raheem? The guy was never that good living off a single career accomplishment win. Plus Raheem was a 135 lber Manny just recently moved to 130. Should Raheem have gone down to 130 to make that fight? By the time Manny moved 135, Raheem ain't sh.iet anymore

          I understand Guzman. But when you have the likes of Marquez and Barrera around, would you have given a pass on them to make a Guzman fight? @ 135 would have been the best time for their clash but Guzman was the one who f.u.ck.ed up as he didn't make weight against Campbell which would have been a nice LW unification between Guzman and Pac later on.

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          • dibzvincent143
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            #25
            Lol manny puts a beating on him. There’s a reason guzman is not known or wasn’t even that popular.

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              #26
              Originally posted by NORMNEALON
              I think hes just new to the sport bro . Seems like a pretty humble guy . Yes manny fought solis instead they were talking about manny guzman is vancouver canada at the time at 130 that's right . My memory was telling me 135 . When the fight really should have happened was in 2000-2002 . That was a close matchup . That was just before manny moved up to featherweight and started his Apex tare with Barrera. one of the best runs in boxing history . But at super bantam I giv Guzman a shot for sure . Not saying he would win tho
              Man, in Vancouver eh? That would be quite a treat for us Canadian s especially on the west coast!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                LMAO at people here talking about ducking as if they were following Manny's career. Did somebody just mention Raheem? The guy was never that good living off a single career accomplishment win. Plus Raheem was a 135 lber Manny just recently moved to 130. Should Raheem have gone down to 130 to make that fight? By the time Manny moved 135, Raheem ain't sh.iet anymore

                I understand Guzman. But when you have the likes of Marquez and Barrera around, would you have given a pass on them to make a Guzman fight? @ 135 would have been the best time for their clash but Guzman was the one who f.u.ck.ed up as he didn't make weight against Campbell which would have been a nice LW unification between Guzman and Pac later on.
                I guess ultimately Guzman lost the sweepstake s then. Basically that's what I call it when they get a shot at Pacquiao. Next up I'm anticipating Danny Garcia.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NORMNEALON
                  I think hes just new to the sport bro . Seems like a pretty humble guy . Yes manny fought solis instead they were talking about manny guzman is vancouver canada at the time at 130 that's right . My memory was telling me 135 . When the fight really should have happened was in 2000-2002 . That was a close matchup . That was just before manny moved up to featherweight and started his Apex tare with Barrera. one of the best runs in boxing history . But at super bantam I giv Guzman a shot for sure . Not saying he would win tho
                  I remember the Jorge Solis fight where Manny went the 12 distance with a 122 fighter and he got shafted for it, for going the distance with a 122 fighter who lost via knockout just recently. Then Manny KO'ed Morales in 3 and the Solis fight was immediately forgotten.

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                  • Thraxox
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                    #29
                    Manny somewhat avoided Guzman. But not what I mean by ducking. There were so many fights available aT Manny's weight class that Guzman was probably 5th or 6th in line, Manny had a chance to fight Guzman at 06 but choose to fight Solis whom he looked like **** in that fight.

                    Marquez-Morales-Barrera-Diaz-Campbell, Guzman was never really a first pick.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                      LMAO at people here talking about ducking as if they were following Manny's career. Did somebody just mention Raheem? The guy was never that good living off a single career accomplishment win. Plus Raheem was a 135 lber Manny just recently moved to 130. Should Raheem have gone down to 130 to make that fight? By the time Manny moved 135, Raheem ain't sh.iet anymore

                      I understand Guzman. But when you have the likes of Marquez and Barrera around, would you have given a pass on them to make a Guzman fight? @ 135 would have been the best time for their clash but Guzman was the one who f.u.ck.ed up as he didn't make weight against Campbell which would have been a nice LW unification between Guzman and Pac later on.

                      That was fun watching people try to recall what was going on back then. Wish you let it go on a bit further but the stopping of misinformation is important, I guess.

                      Yeah, Raheem was never considered a serious fighter by any hardcore fans. Everyone knew his time was up very soon

                      Guzman would gas in fights and Pacquiao had no right hook yet which I why in said the fight would be competitive earlier. He was such a crazy physical specimen though that I don’t think Guzman had the talent to win. Barrera, Morales, Marquez had that talent along with proven heart and they were all going down. So my pick is sort of made in hindsight. In the ******* forum I recall there were just three or four fans who wanted the fight made. No one on the planet was calling for it or even thinking about it so the duck claims are way off base.

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