Comments Thread For: Joseph Parker vs. Shawndell Winters - Official For Garcia-Vargas

[JakeTheBoxer]

Is Parker the new Fury????

Meaning? Fury fights Wilder next.

[Kezzer]

Meaning? Fury fights Wilder next.

Meaning he is fighting “who the fck is that guy?” opponents

[vital1983]

Shadwell Utd

[NORMNEALON]

I’d say Winters win over Teslenko is a better win then Jennings has who is Szpilka,I’d put money on the hard hitting prospect .

Jennings is more proven and holds vast pro experience but Parker will be in a fight if Winters can hold up and not wind down before mid rounds where he gets sloppy but still dangerous ,he has better boxing imop then Parker in the early going but not the stamina or chin of Parker . He has shots that land hard you don’t see coming .

I dunno while agree winters is a decent fighter I dont see teslenko as a bigger win than anything szpilka has . Off the top of my head szpilka beat wach , adamek ( altho old still better than Maldonado who is teslenkos best win on paper . Szpilka also has many wins on par with Maldonado: mollo , mcline , minto , hell even quazada . While teslenko was undefeated, imho he is not a better win than szpilka when Jennings fought him. however my theory may be proven wrong once we see what teslenko pulls out of the hat after his loss to winters. Although the fact that he lost to winters tells me all I need to know about him . I would pick jennings to beat winters today and I cant pick him to do more than look decent a few rounds vs parker and then get stopped or beaten by boring decision . I mean parker has not looked great lately but there are levels to this . If winters pulls off what u are saying I will gladly eat crow I just dont see it happening imho

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I dunno while agree winters is a decent fighter I dont see teslenko as a bigger win than anything szpilka has . Off the top of my head szpilka beat wach , adamek ( altho old still better than Maldonado who is teslenkos best win on paper . Szpilka also has many wins on par with Maldonado: mollo , mcline , minto , hell even quazada . While teslenko was undefeated, imho he is not a better win than szpilka when Jennings fought him. however my theory may be proven wrong once we see what teslenko pulls out of the hat after his loss to winters. Although the fact that he lost to winters tells me all I need to know about him . I would pick jennings to beat winters today and I cant pick him to do more than look decent a few rounds vs parker and then get stopped or beaten by boring decision . I mean parker has not looked great lately but there are levels to this . If winters pulls off what u are saying I will gladly eat crow I just dont see it happening imho

Szpilka has a known suspect chin and no power ,it really wouldn’t matter what his best win in he’s not a prospect he’s a journeyman level and was a decent southpaw but never a top, level proven guy . Southpaws like Wallin, Demsey , and Usyk look like the goods more so . Szpilka outboxing Wilder up until the knockout doesn’t show much it’s been done numerous times .


Jennings beats Winters until proven otherwise but this is the problem ,that’s people giving credit to other guys without them doing it. We’ve seen this really with only the Wilder fans, they took credit for Furys win over Wallin , any AJ win he always gets credit for which is absurd , when Wilder challenged Bellew it was o.k but when Usyk knocked him out he was brushed off as to small ,makes no sense . If Aomeone beats a Wilder opponent he claims they weren’t the same but states Breazeale is one of his best stoppages and AJ defeated that guy 4 years ago .


Point is one can’t brush off a fight just because so and so defeated this guy or that guy the actual fighter has to claim a victory himself .

[NORMNEALON]

Szpilka has a known suspect chin and no power ,it really wouldn’t matter what his best win in he’s not a prospect he’s a journeyman level and was a decent southpaw but never a top, level proven guy . Southpaws like Wallin, Demsey , and Usyk look like the goods more so . Szpilka outboxing Wilder up until the knockout doesn’t show much it’s been done numerous times .


Jennings beats Winters until proven otherwise but this is the problem ,that’s people giving credit to other guys without them doing it. We’ve seen this really with only the Wilder fans, they took credit for Furys win over Wallin , any AJ win he always gets credit for which is absurd , when Wilder challenged Bellew it was o.k but when Usyk knocked him out he was brushed off as to small ,makes no sense . If Aomeone beats a Wilder opponent he claims they weren’t the same but states Breazeale is one of his best stoppages and AJ defeated that guy 4 years ago .


Point is one can’t brush off a fight just because so and so defeated this guy or that guy the actual fighter has to claim a victory himself .

I only mentioned that becusse u were talking about best wins so I was comparing them , szpilka was absolutely a decent undefeated prospect when jennings fought him. Winters was stopped in 2 rounds by Bryan Howard, I'll say it again Bryan Howard. His chin is also suspect and before the fight with parker this is proven. Szpilka was not proven to have a bad chin before or even immediatly after the jennings fight . All iam doing is responding to your points about winters and jennings best win . We both agree on parker winter just see it possibly happening differently . Winters is a tune up , and a level down from alot of guys parker could have chosen . I hope that it is a decent fight but i doubt it and it's not what any fans wanna see from parker at this point is all iam saying . I didnt bring Jennings or szpilka into the conversation,just a friendly reminder . All said with the best intentions I respectfully disagree .

I agree 100 that people take losses and wins with other fighters out of context to compare it to their favoirtie fighter ....pure agenda drives me crazy

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I only mentioned that becusse u were talking about best wins so I was comparing them , szpilka was absolutely a decent undefeated prospect when jennings fought him. Winters was stopped in 2 rounds by Bryan Howard, I'll say it again Bryan Howard. His chin is also suspect and before the fight with parker this is proven. Szpilka was not proven to have a bad chin before or even immediatly after the jennings fight . All iam doing is responding to your points about winters and jennings best win . We both agree on parker winter just see it possibly happening differently . Winters is a tune up , and a level down from alot of guys parker could have chosen . I hope that it is a decent fight but i doubt it and it's not what any fans wanna see from parker at this point is all iam saying . I didnt bring Jennings or szpilka into the conversation,just a friendly reminder . All said with the best intentions I respectfully disagree .

I agree 100 that people take losses and wins with other fighters out of context to compare it to their favoirtie fighter ....pure agenda drives me crazy

Szpilka best win prior to Jennings was aging Mcline off a loss to Sconiers I can’t buy into he looked better or more threatening then Teslenko .


You don’t have to bring Szpilka up if we are comparing fighters you bring up their opponents . My stance is Winters has a better win then Jennings does and could make a difficult fight , maybe ?

[NORMNEALON]

Szpilka best win prior to Jennings was aging Mcline off a loss to Sconiers I can’t buy into he looked better or more threatening then Teslenko .


You don’t have to bring Szpilka up if we are comparing fighters you bring up their opponents . My stance is Winters has a better win then Jennings does and could make a difficult fight , maybe ?

I respect that and cant argue maybe he can ,I just respectfully disagree on the best wins of jennings and winters . Telesco had fought no one but Maldonado and he was on par with a few of szpilkas wins prior to jennings that is all . Agree to disagree. But all love bro , I like to debate not argue so thank you for that haha respect !!

I personally didnt see much in teslenko as a pro before he was beaten by winters I guess that skews my opinion on him slightly

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I respect that and cant argue maybe he can ,I just respectfully disagree on the best wins of jennings and winters . Telesco had fought no one but Maldonado and he was on par with a few of szpilkas wins prior to jennings that is all . Agree to disagree. But all love bro , I like to debate not argue so thank you for that haha respect !!

I personally didnt see much in teslenko as a pro before he was beaten by winters I guess that skews my opinion on him slightly

I just want to also go back on Szpilka vs Wach where he was almost knocked out in a fight I thought he lost and was buckled a few times because Wach gets the label bum on here ,but I bet if wilder defeated him and not a overweight Whyte he would be labled a solid fighter ,Wach was never in my top 10 list in 5 years at least but if he’s not there I don’t think Spzpilka can be ,he wasn’t ranked in the transnational rankings either when Wilder fought him.

We’ll see what’s what on fight night ,I think it’s a good win for Parker if he dominates ,I brushed this fight off to,until I took 20 minutes out of my time to see this Winters guy ,pretty decent skills really.

[NORMNEALON]

I just want to also go back on Szpilka vs Wach where he was almost knocked out in a fight I thought he lost and was buckled a few times because Wach gets the label bum on here ,but I bet if wilder defeated him and not a overweight Whyte he would be labled a solid fighter ,Wach was never in my top 10 list in 5 years at least but if he’s not there I don’t think Spzpilka can be ,he wasn’t ranked in the transnational rankings either when Wilder fought him.

We’ll see what’s what on fight night ,I think it’s a good win for Parker if he dominates ,I brushed this fight off to,until I took 20 minutes out of my time to see this Winters guy ,pretty decent skills really.

I hear you and I shouldnt have brought up anyone post jennings to support my side of the debate it was irrelevant. More so guys like minto and mollo were on par with Maldonado is what I should have been referring too etc . But I think winters is an underrated fighter and he has a decent punch . Just didnt translate to his step up fight ( but he still won and hasnt lost since ) and parker has a top notch chin . This convo has got me atleast intrigued now in this fight . And to try and dig up some more footage on winters and look further into his amateur career to get a better gauge of he is capable of . Thanks for the debate bro iam not so upset about this fight now and I love an underdog so if winters pulls a rabbit out the hat I will gladly eat crow and watch him much closer from that point on .