Comments Thread For: James Kirkland vs. Marcos Hernandez Tops PBC on FS1, March 14

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  • daggum
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    #11
    i remember when people were saying canelo fighting kirkland was a good fight? that made no sense at all to me seeing as he had just been washed by ishida in one round. then they tried to say canelo was taking a risk by fighting paul williams...who had just been ko'd cold and dominated by lara. oh and then it was victor ortiz...a ww who had just been ko'd.

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    • The3
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      #12
      Setting him up for one of the Charlo twins

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        #13
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper
        Anne Wolf happened to it.
        From what I gathered I heard that James hated Wolfe's training but she got the best James Kirkland performances. I believe there has to be more then trainer issues that shelved Kirkland for 2014 and '16-'18.

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #14
          Originally posted by anonymous2.0
          From what I gathered I heard that James hated Wolfe's training but she got the best James Kirkland performances. I believe there has to be more then trainer issues that shelved Kirkland for 2014 and '16-'18.
          Anne's problem was she thought the battle was in the gym.

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          • anonymous2.0
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            #15
            Originally posted by Curtis Harper
            Anne's problem was she thought the battle was in the gym.
            Did she train her fighters too hard so they weren't optimal for fight night? I know James Kirkland had a lot of back and forth between him and Anne but I didn't know of any other fighter Anne trained.

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              #16
              Originally posted by anonymous2.0
              Did she train her fighters too hard so they weren't optimal for fight night? I know James Kirkland had a lot of back and forth between him and Anne but I didn't know of any other fighter Anne trained.
              To her, it was boot camp. Just terrible.

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                #17
                Originally posted by daggum
                i remember when people were saying canelo fighting kirkland was a good fight? that made no sense at all to me seeing as he had just been washed by ishida in one round. then they tried to say canelo was taking a risk by fighting paul williams...who had just been ko'd cold and dominated by lara. oh and then it was victor ortiz...a ww who had just been ko'd.
                The only ones saying Kirkland was a good opponent for Canelo was Canelo fan boys lol, I remember a lot of people writing Kirkland off because of the layoff...Paul Williams despite his Lara "win" and KO by Martinez was still viewed as a legit threat to the then green Canelo and Ortiz was lined up for a Canelo shot until Lopez upended those plans.

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                • Nightfall
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                  #18
                  Nice fight for boxing. Get to sit home with food, some drink and a few fans of the sport. 🥊

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                  • 1bad65
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                    Did she train her fighters too hard so they weren't optimal for fight night? I know James Kirkland had a lot of back and forth between him and Anne but I didn't know of any other fighter Anne trained.
                    They went all out, every day. Or at least the days I was there.

                    Even sparring was done with full force. It's the only gym where I've heard sparring referred to as "fighting".

                    Based on the sparring sessions I saw there, it's safe to say Kirkland has taken a lot more damage in training than he has in his actual fights.

                    Her style worked for Kirkland in terms of him being at his finest when he fought, but it definitely took years out of his career.

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                    • 1bad65
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                      Did she train her fighters too hard so they weren't optimal for fight night? I know James Kirkland had a lot of back and forth between him and Anne but I didn't know of any other fighter Anne trained.
                      She trained a few, but none as successful as Kirkland.

                      Her daughter even had a few pro fights.

                      Several years ago one of her guys who competed (just as an amateur iirc) killed a man after a car accident. He was found Not Guilty at trial.

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