Jermall Charlo continues to get punked out

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  • Cobra Curry
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    #121
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    "But they are also willing to go over to Showtime to make the fight as long as they get a good offer."

    are they really though?!?!?!?!?

    something tells me no matter what theyll stand behind that "we offered YOU career high money so......"
    They'll expect something in the region of what they offered. Is that unreasonable?

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    • Superbee
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      #122
      Originally posted by .!WAR RUIZ!..
      No real man would let another man make you looks like a bitch FOR THEIR GAIN! lmfao.
      Except in Boxing, for one...

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      • Curt Henning
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        #123
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Bob Arum is a liar.

        But until Andrade proves himself to be one as well I will take him at his word.
        hes already been proven one...

        his father lied about the money he was supposed to get to fight jermell years ago....his own promoter said his father lied....

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        • Curt Henning
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          #124
          Originally posted by Cobra Curry
          They'll expect something in the region of what they offered. Is that unreasonable?
          yeah...it is unreasonable...because we can all agree charlo aint worth 7 mil right?

          i mean..i know he isnt...you do too right?

          so DAZN is overpaying...fully knowing another network wouldnt reasonably match it.....and while DAZN is willing to tell you what they offer charlo(not really though since hearn covered the number on his phone when showing you that he made the offer) they didnt tell you what andrade would be making...

          hearns whole offer is a publicity stunt.....hearn started using that term when wilder offered Aj 50 million....that offer was real but hearn started talking about how it was a pub stunt...since that day he said that hes come up with the idea that he can do pub stunts and trick people into believing things....

          theres a whole legion of suckers out there that want to believe every pbc guy is a ducker and doesnt want to fight anyone.....you guys will buy anything

          why did hearn cover the number if we all know its 7 mil? why is andrade fighting luke keeler in front of 800 people instead of canelo, jacobs, ggg(all on his network)?

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            #125
            too bad PBC doesnt actually offer SOMETHING to Andrade for a Charlo fight.

            That way, no matter what the offer was, we could reply "LOWBALL!!!!!" and "DUCK!!!!"

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            • Curt Henning
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              #126
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              too bad PBC doesnt actually offer SOMETHING to Andrade for a Charlo fight.

              That way, no matter what the offer was, we could reply "LOWBALL!!!!!" and "DUCK!!!!"
              yeah...well..lets put it this way...when the pbc guys go out and say "hey yeah you can call us...we have the greenlight"...the other side goes from wanting the fight to "were not interested" in a matter of two weeks

              see crawford/porter

              so why do things in public...the pbc doesnt do that kinda ****....never really have....

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                #127
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                who has made fighters more money and made more careers.....al haymon or shoulderroll?
                Well haymons stable is mostly overhyped pretenders with some of the most pathetic “ resumes” in the sport.

                So thats actually a really good question.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by glenn mcrory
                  Well haymons stable is mostly overhyped pretenders with some of the most pathetic “ resumes” in the sport.

                  So thats actually a really good question.
                  does terrence crawford have one guy on his resume as good as porter, brook or mikey garcia?

                  does andrade have one guy on his resume as good as any of those guys?

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                  • Cobra Curry
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    yeah...it is unreasonable...because we can all agree charlo aint worth 7 mil right?

                    i mean..i know he isnt...you do too right?

                    so DAZN is overpaying...fully knowing another network wouldnt reasonably match it.....and while DAZN is willing to tell you what they offer charlo(not really though since hearn covered the number on his phone when showing you that he made the offer) they didnt tell you what andrade would be making...

                    hearns whole offer is a publicity stunt.....hearn started using that term when wilder offered Aj 50 million....that offer was real but hearn started talking about how it was a pub stunt...since that day he said that hes come up with the idea that he can do pub stunts and trick people into believing things....

                    theres a whole legion of suckers out there that want to believe every pbc guy is a ducker and doesnt want to fight anyone.....you guys will buy anything

                    why did hearn cover the number if we all know its 7 mil? why is andrade fighting luke keeler in front of 800 people instead of canelo, jacobs, ggg(all on his network)?
                    We can agree that neither Charlo nor Andrade are worth 7 million, but having outlined the dangers of "crossing the street", surely you'd agree that an overpayment is a necessity for either side?

                    We all know that Alvarez does what he wants and that Golovkin and DAZN are waiting on Alvarez; rightly or wrongly, it is what it is, much like when Spence couldn't get fights with Thurman et al.
                    If Golovkin won't fight Charlo and Charlo won't fight Canelo, then 7 million for a winnable fight is no bad deal. I understand that it's risky but I don't see either man making progress with the likes Eubank and Keeler, while the winner likely commands a higher purse from Canelo, which I'm assuming is the end goal of all this.

                    I'm not sure we can dismiss the offer as a publicity stunt because
                    a) DAZN needs signups and have shown that they are willing to pay for them
                    b) Eddie needs to do something with Andrade and
                    c) we've seen Ramirez take Hooker's belt and a fat cheque back to Top Rank, no questions asked.

                    Not putting the dollar amount on public display strikes me as good manners/protocol but it could well be that Hearn is a lying promoter. Either way, we agree that the offer was lucrative enough to warrant discussion so I don't think it matters greatly.

                    Personally, I'm reluctant to throw Charlo under the bus because it's clear that he isn't making the decisions (he doesn't help himself by claiming to be the boss but realistically, we know what it is).
                    For me, the decision has been made to get the belt around Charlo's waist, put him on TV and sell the idea that Canelo ducked. The problem is, the world at large simply doesn't believe that and continuing to reject risky fights is a bad look.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #130
                      Seems Jermall Charlo is already exposed without even fighting any of the top ten guys.

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