Why do some forget that GGG accepted the Ward fight in 2013?

[Curtis Harper]

I think he/his team did very well for him financially really...a lot of that is because he was fortunate to land the Canelo fight twice...and then the anticipation of a 3rd fight with Canelo got GGG a big inflated deal from DAZN.

I agree that I would have liked to have seen GGG at 168 or even 175 in his prime vs top guys at those weights, to see where his level was...overall I think he made the right decision to wait on Canelo (or another one of the smaller guys) for his big money/legacy fight.

Anyone at 168-175 may have been a decent legacy fight, but no one imo was really lining up to fight GGG in his prime...and GGG would have made no real money in those fights either...look at he difference money wise in his fight with Canelo vs Ward's fights with Kovalev.

Fu ck excuses
Everyone has their own destiny in their hands.

GGG could have been Nelo, but nah. His team let him stagnant and get comfy doing what he was doing. By the time money became a thing, well........

[TonyGe]

hey, no...stealthradon is too much for me!

(by which I mean something entirely different, apparently)

Yeah you do or you wouldn't have answered with a bit of sarcasm. Plenty of people and not just Golovkin's fans have patiently explained to you what your error was. Why don't you just admit you jumped on a chance to discredit Golovkin and it blew up in your face. Being stubborn has it's virtues but in this case it's just digging yourself a deeper hole.

[Citizen Koba]

your comment is too much for him

Did you see me dis*****g it? Certainly Ward is the more accomplished which is how I'd usually define 'greatness'.

You egofans are a weird bunch.

[Citizen Koba]

Fu ck excuses
Everyone has their own destiny in their hands.

GGG could have been Nelo, but nah. His team let him stagnant and get comfy doing what he was doing. By the time money became a thing, well........

Nah, man. Yoiu're utterly wrong if you think all fighters get the same opportunities in this sport. Think about it a second... if that weren't the case then why would the sport be dominated by a few top promotions? Why would young fighters be desperate to get signed by GBP or TR or PBC? Simple fact is that being with a top promoter abnd the favourite of a major sanction organisation gets you better fights sooner.

Guys with the smaller promoters and less backing are always gonna be at a disadvantage, always gonna be the ones begging for fights instead of picking 'em. Just the way it is, man, the way it's always been.

[DreamFighter]

Yeah you do or you wouldn't have answered with a bit of sarcasm. Plenty of people and not just Golovkin's fans have patiently explained to you what your error was. Why don't you just admit you jumped on a chance to discredit Golovkin and it blew up in your face. Being stubborn has it's virtues but in this case it's just digging yourself a deeper hole.

hehehe...noooo...TonyGe is TOO MMUCH for me...

[Citizen Koba]

If after 100 amateur fights and you're still in no better place than the 1st amateur fight, time to change things up. Unless he had an amateur ranks goal he wanted to accomplish.

That was in fact very much SOP across most of the ex-Soviets, Eastern Europe and Cuba. In the US amateur boxing has always been viewed as a stepping stone to a professional career and the assumption seems to be that it's always been that way everywhere, but actually that couldn't be further from reality.

You're forgetting that across half the world until fairly recently there was no professional sport. The pinnacle of a fighters career was to medal in the Olympics or the World's and they were expected to stay amateur for their entire career. It's an entirely different philosophy and it fact whilst pro-boxing may have been secretly watched and admired the official line was that it was corrupt and decadent and much of that sentiment remains to this day.

In fact it's really only in the last decade or so that we've really seen large numbers of top amateurs from the former socialist countries turning pro and the pro sport gaining greater acceptance in those countries, though it's still viewed with su****ion by many older fighters and trainers.

Furthermore whilst in the US there's a fairly well established system to move promising young fighters from the ammys to the pro ranks, no such system existed in Kazakhstan in 2005/6, in fact there was pretty much no pro boxing at all and no-one to tell GGG how to go about making the transition or to advise him on what to do or offer him career advice or whatever, so in some ways it was a much bigger step into the unknown than it might have been for a US fighter making a similar move

[TonyGe]

hehehe...noooo...TonyGe is TOO MMUCH for me...

You keep repeating yourself and getting the same the same futile outcome.

[Curtis Harper]

That was in fact very much SOP across most of the ex-Soviets, Eastern Europe and Cuba. In the US amateur boxing has always been viewed as a stepping stone to a professional career and the assumption seems to be that it's always been that way everywhere, but actually that couldn't be further from reality.

You're forgetting that across half the world until fairly recently there was no professional sport. The pinnacle of a fighters career was to medal in the Olympics or the World's and they were expected to stay amateur for their entire career. It's an entirely different philosophy and it fact whilst pro-boxing may have been secretly watched and admired the official line was that it was corrupt and decadent and much of that sentiment remains to this day.

In fact it's really only in the last decade or so that we've really seen large numbers of top amateurs from the former socialist countries turning pro and the pro sport gaining greater acceptance in those countries, though it's still viewed with su****ion by many older fighters and trainers.

Not a fan of excuses, regardless of the factual content.
Either sucks to be him or it serves him right.

He could have been Nelo but nah

[Boxing_1013]

Fu ck excuses
Everyone has their own destiny in their hands.

GGG could have been Nelo, but nah. His team let him stagnant and get comfy doing what he was doing. By the time money became a thing, well........

Well he's better than Nelo...he proved that twice didn't he?

And Canelo is only Canelo because of where he was born...GGG didn't have that advantage

[Curtis Harper]

Well he's better than Nelo...he proved that twice didn't he?

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