What Happened to GOLOVKIN's Hype? Secret SNAC Transformation coming?

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  • GGG Gloveking
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    #11
    Originally posted by UNBANNED
    Nobody forced GGG to stay amateur until 24 years old and nobody forced Gennady to stay in Europe fighting actual cab drivers until he was 28 years old.

    GGG had chances to fight Canelo, Cotto, Dervenchenko, Andrade, BJS, Ward, and Lara but he turned all of those fights down. He did wind up fighting a few of them later, but he refused to budge on weight so the fights were postponed. That was a MISS for Gennady and he alone is responsible for that.
    It looks like most of your list consists of middleweight fighters. Why would Golovkin need to budge on weight for a MW? The only non-MW names I see are Lara and Ward. If I recall correctly, Golovkin did offer to budge in weight for Ward, so that leaves you with Lara.

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    • Dontbeahater
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      #12
      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
      It looks like most of your list consists of middleweight fighters. Why would Golovkin need to budge on weight for a MW? The only non-MW names I see are Lara and Ward. If I recall correctly, Golovkin did offer to budge in weight for Ward, so that leaves you with Lara.
      You guessed wrong. It was a sham offer based on the money and weight demands.

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      • GGG Gloveking
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dontbeahater
        You guessed wrong. It was a sham offer based on the money and weight demands.
        That's speculative. Let's just deal in facts, please. Thank you.

        Wait.. lets back up a second. You mean the weight that the other poster just contended that Golovkin was unwilling to budge from? That weight is the one you mean?
        Last edited by GGG Gloveking; 01-30-2020, 09:06 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
          It looks like most of your list consists of middleweight fighters. Why would Golovkin need to budge on weight for a MW? The only non-MW names I see are Lara and Ward. If I recall correctly, Golovkin did offer to budge in weight for Ward, so that leaves you with Lara.
          Cotto won MW title at 159 and fought at 157 and 155 and Canelo won MW title at 155. Neither of those guys, established A-side stars, made a fuss about Catchweights.

          Canelo made 152 for Floyd and 155 for Cotto.

          Cotto made 145 for Pacquiao

          But GGG who was 32 years old and fighting guys like Praksa and Rosario (literal journeymen) refused to make any concessions. So, yeah, GGG had to wait for those fights. That's what happens.

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          • DuckAdonis
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            #15
            He's an old man now sadly

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            • GGG Gloveking
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              #16
              Originally posted by UNBANNED
              Cotto won MW title at 159 and fought at 157 and 155 and Canelo won MW title at 155. Neither of those guys, established A-side stars, made a fuss about Catchweights.

              Canelo made 152 for Floyd and 155 for Cotto.

              Cotto made 145 for Pacquiao

              But GGG who was 32 years old and fighting guys like Praksa and Rosario (literal journeymen) refused to make any concessions. So, yeah, GGG had to wait for those fights. That's what happens.
              It looks like the point you're trying to make is that because other fighters fought at a catch, then Golovkin should be required to do so. My point is that a fight for any belt should occur at the full limit of the division, and that fights between fighters of the same class, should occur at the division in which they both compete.

              I disagree with the assertion that just because established A-side fighters do something, then it is acceptable. Case in point, Canelo tested positive for clenbuterol. Just because he did it, and he's an A-side, doesn't make consumption of illegal substances acceptable. I feel the same way about catch-weights. Just because Floyd, Manny, and Canelo do it, doesn't make it right.

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              • Shadoww702
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                #17
                Originally posted by UNBANNED
                Cotto won MW title at 159 and fought at 157 and 155 and Canelo won MW title at 155. Neither of those guys, established A-side stars, made a fuss about Catchweights.

                Canelo made 152 for Floyd and 155 for Cotto.

                Cotto made 145 for Pacquiao

                But GGG who was 32 years old and fighting guys like Praksa and Rosario (literal journeymen) refused to make any concessions. So, yeah, GGG had to wait for those fights. That's what happens.
                BINGO and let’s not forget about the “Anyone from 154-168” comment out of GGG’s own mouth.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                  That's speculative. Let's just deal in facts, please. Thank you.

                  Wait.. lets back up a second. You mean the weight that the other poster just contended that Golovkin was unwilling to budge from? That weight is the one you mean?
                  Speculative??? “Anyone from 154-168” isn’t speculative
                  Last edited by Shadoww702; 01-30-2020, 10:35 AM.

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    It's shocking that anyone had Golovkin P4P #1. I couldn't believe how so many got fooled by the hype.
                    How? most people had him beating the guy that is considered an ATG already, Canelo. At 36 years old. And the next year, a fight that could have gone either way, at 37 yo, again most people had him winning.

                    Golovkin was avoided during his prime for a reason, but now he's enjoying 100 times more money you will ever make and very happy with his business.

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                    • GGG Gloveking
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Speculative??? Fkn saying “Anyone from 154-168” isn’t speculative you dope!

                      Go back and suk that gggood Dic!
                      Excuse me... I've always tried to be respectful to you, and this is how you repay me? I wasn't even talking to you, and you have the nerve to tell me to suck a dicc?! Wow...

                      ...the things people say from the safety of their home...

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