Canelo held to much higher standards than the rest.

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  • UNBANNED
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Kov was a 7-1 underdog and not the best fight available. Neither is Murata.
    Moving up 2 weight classes to fight the most established champion is always respectable

    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You are leaving out some key information. You are leaving out he tested positive and served a 6 month suspension which delayed the ggg fight and gave canelo a better chance to win.
    Those positive tests will always hang over him, but there is a legitimate chance his alibi is true. The WADA official said his positive tests were "consistent with meat contamination".

    No clue how Canelo would have an advantage going into the rematch. He got a lot of negative media, had knee surgery, and was criticized for fighting on the backfoot

    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You are leaving out the whole champion emeritus situation and giving the belt to charlo rather than defending it.
    GGG also "ducked" Charlo by those standards. No fighter can fight everyone. If you want to fight make it worthwhile so fight people worthwhile. Charlo has still not fought one single Top 10 MW. Its hilarious.

    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You are also leaving out the fact a lot of people feel he lost both ggg fights and that is why they want the 3rd before ggg is too old to have a legitimate chance to win.
    A case can be made for the 1st fight but it's a stretch GGG won the rematch.

    A case can also be made Jacobs and Dervenchenko beat GGG. A case can also be made Lara beat Canelo. That's how boxing goes
    Last edited by UNBANNED; 01-30-2020, 08:59 AM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #12
      Originally posted by Young Bidness
      Lol. You’re leaving out that you’ve been feeling rather salty past weeks because Charlo turned down a career high paydays. It basically shuts down, which you no longer claim, that Canelo “ducked” Charlo. You’re even saying a lot of people felt he lost both fights. Not even the LDBC feel that. They all said Canelo beat his ass the second fight.

      It’s ok to feel salty. Oh yeah you also forgot to mention that WADA’s revision for Clenbuterol basically waived Canelo of any wrong doing since meat contamination is real with Clen in China, Mexico, and Russia.
      Still no definitive proof of the alleged offer so no, I don't feel salty in any way.

      The change in the WADA rules didn't erase he tested positive for PED's and served a 6 month suspension. Same way posters now know you as Young Bidness doesn't in any way change you were once Frankie2jabs.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Originally posted by UNBANNED
        Moving up 2 weight classes to fight the most established champion is always respectable



        Those positive tests will always hang over him, but there is a legitimate chance his alibi is true. The WADA official said his positive tests were "consistent with meat contamination".

        No clue how Canelo would have an advantage going into the rematch. He got a lot of negative media, had knee surgery, and was criticized for fighting on the backfoot

        You are leaving out the whole champion emeritus situation and giving the belt to charlo rather than defending it.[/ quote]

        GGG also "ducked" Charlo by those standards. No fighter can fight everyone. If you want to fight make it worthwhile so fight people worthwhile. Charlo has still not fought one single Top 10 MW. Its hilarious.



        A case can be made for the 1st fight but it's a stretch GGG won the rematch.

        A case can also be made Jacobs and Dervenchenko beat GGG. A case can also be made Lara beat Canelo. That's how boxing goes
        I didn't claim it wasn't respectable. Most established is a nice way of saying oldest and least dangerous.

        His alibi is believable if you allow yourself to believe the highest paid athlete in Mexico, one who has a personal chef, is buying his meat at places that sell grade B and C beef that is steroid injected. If you believe him, OK. Still will not erase the positive test and the suspension.

        I agree that no fighter can fight everyone. That doesn't change what happened. Charlo's resume is poor but that also doesn't change what happened.

        I don't think he lost the 2nd fight but a lot of people do. That is why they want to see the 3rd fight immediately rather than when ggg gets older.

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        • R_Walken
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          #14
          Please

          As a Cash Cow Canelo is held
          To one of the lowest possible standard there can be

          I’m out the loop is the Murata fight official because if so that’s a sh.it fight and there’s about 15 better opponets Xanelo could have picked. When Golovkin was rumoured to fight Murata it was viewed as a joke , Now all the Canelo fans are
          Trying to praise this sh.it

          Canelo went to DAZn and has faced 2nd tier strap holders , Old as Dust Kov & Jacobs that’s not a good run and has managed to avoid all the biggest threats 160-168
          .Not saying he has to run the gauntlet but As a cash cow Canelo can fight anyone he chooses and he has so far on DAZn he’s chosen basically sub par sh.it that’s been polished to make it seem something it’s not because of the fact he’ll jump
          Up in weight and face a 2nd tier no name champ or a past prime former boogeymen

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I didn't claim it wasn't respectable. Most established is a nice way of saying oldest and least dangerous.

            His alibi is believable if you allow yourself to believe the highest paid athlete in Mexico, one who has a personal chef, is buying his meat at places that sell grade B and C beef that is steroid injected. If you believe him, OK. Still will not erase the positive test and the suspension.
            Clenbuterol is not even a steroid so I'm not sure how eating steroid injected meat would make someone test positive for Clenbuterol...

            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I agree that no fighter can fight everyone. That doesn't change what happened. Charlo's resume is poor but that also doesn't change what happened.
            Of course

            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I don't think he lost the 2nd fight but a lot of people do. That is why they want to see the 3rd fight immediately rather than when ggg gets older.
            I had both fights as they were scored. For me it was either GGG 7-5 or draw in 1st fight and Canelo 7-5 or draw in 2nd fight.

            I also had Dervenchenko beating GGG as most people did. A case could be made for Jacobs beating GGG, but the KD was probably the deciding factor...still should've been a rematch.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Still no definitive proof of the alleged offer so no, I don't feel salty in any way.

              The change in the WADA rules didn't erase he tested positive for PED's and served a 6 month suspension. Same way posters now know you as Young Bidness doesn't in any way change you were once Frankie2jabs.
              You should thank me. Most people on the forum know Frankie2jabs punked you out!

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              • kidbazooka
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                #17
                Originally posted by R_Walken
                Please

                As a Cash Cow Canelo is held
                To one of the lowest possible standard there can be

                I’m out the loop is the Murata fight official because if so that’s a sh.it fight and there’s about 15 better opponets Xanelo could have picked. When Golovkin was rumoured to fight Murata it was viewed as a joke , Now all the Canelo fans are
                Trying to praise this sh.it

                Canelo went to DAZn and has faced 2nd tier strap holders , Old as Dust Kov & Jacobs that’s not a good run and has managed to avoid all the biggest threats 160-168
                .Not saying he has to run the gauntlet but As a cash cow Canelo can fight anyone he chooses and he has so far on DAZn he’s chosen basically sub par sh.it that’s been polished to make it seem something it’s not because of the fact he’ll jump
                Up in weight and face a 2nd tier no name champ or a past prime former boogeymen
                Lol

                Let me guess Canelo should be fighting that unknown bum ggg is set to face right? Would that be better?

                And I didn’t hear anyone bash ggg for the rumored murata fight cuz he would have easily been one of gggs better opponents besides canelo and Jacobs lol

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Young Bidness
                  You should thank me. Most people on the forum know Frankie2jabs punked you out!
                  Actually, most people know you were banned multiple times for racism under the name Frankie2jabs. Sort of like how people remember Canelo was banned for 6 months for testing positive.

                  In other words, you can change things but you can't erase the past.

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                  • AKAcronym
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by UNBANNED
                    Clenbuterol is not even a steroid so I'm not sure how eating steroid injected meat would make someone test positive for Clenbuterol...
                    Hmmm...makes you wonder then...

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                      #20
                      happens all the time if your the best you will be held to a higher standard than everyone else

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