Anti-Doping Rules Make Things Worst for Boxers

[KingHippo]

It then becomes about who has the more money and connections to reverse decisions or bribe officers. Or who has the strong enough team to find and develop drugs that aren't on the banned list yet.

There should be no rules and no testing, unless for full disclosure. As a new boxer, you have to be prepared for what you're getting into. But your progress isn't limited because you didn't have the proper backing or a team of scientists working round the clock to circumvent rules.

[stealthradon]

I hear you man. Also legalize murder.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Word, more money = better trainers, better equipment, better overall camp. Do away with all those unfair advantages. Put steel dome over the ring and attach a giant elastic band to the fighters which will allow them to bounce around grabbing various weapons off the walls.

[mxtali]

Most of these “clean” guys are taking **** that can’t be detected or hasn’t been put on the banned list yet because new **** is constantly being developed. I think it’s foolish to believe otherwise.
Think Povetkin. He admitted to taking melodonium when it was still allowed. Who knows how long he had been taking that sht, but since he had never popped for PEDs everybody assumed he was clean.

[KingHippo]

Most of these “clean” guys are taking **** that can’t be detected or hasn’t been put on the banned list yet because new **** is constantly being developed. I think it’s foolish to believe otherwise.
Think Povetkin. He admitted to taking melodonium when it was still allowed. Who knows how long he had been taking that sht, but since he had never popped for PEDs everybody assumed he was clean.

There should be no testing at all. It's not just the Russians. Anything that isn't on the banned list is fair game. Let the guys fight. They already know what they're getting into. But only the rich and powerful get to cheat.

[kilojay505]

It then becomes about who has the more money and connections to reverse decisions or bribe officers. Or who has the strong enough team to find and develop drugs that aren't on the banned list yet.

There should be no rules and no testing, unless for full disclosure. As a new boxer, you have to be prepared for what you're getting into. But your progress isn't limited because you didn't have the proper backing or a team of scientists working round the clock to circumvent rules.

Over 3k post and zero rep power. Ya i think its safe to say this forum isnt for you

[daggum]

i actually said this years and years ago. that a-side boxers will use testing to make sure they can cheat and their opponents can't because they know all the loopholes and thats exactly what floyd did with usada, on top of bribing them with 150k in cash. oh the guy paying us ten times more than normal wants a tue...here ya go! maybe vada is better but we will see

[Dosumpthin]

i actually said this years and years ago. that a-side boxers will use testing to make sure they can cheat and their opponents can't because they know all the loopholes and thats exactly what floyd did with usada, on top of bribing them with 150k in cash. oh the guy paying us ten times more than normal wants a tue...here ya go! maybe vada is better but we will see

At first Thomas Hauser claimed it was too much to pay USADA. Since then he claimed VADA doesn't charge enough.

Thomas Hauser recently said VADA charged 50k for 21 test.

Well Floyd and Manny were each tested 22 times under USADA and it cost 100k - not 150k.

VADA turns out to be charge MORE than USADA and does much less than a WADA signatory.


When it's all said and done I blame idiots like you.

[daggum]

At first Thomas Hauser claimed it was too much to pay USADA. Since then he claimed VADA doesn't charge enough.

Thomas Hauser recently said VADA charged 50k for 21 test.

Well Floyd and Manny were each tested 22 times under USADA and it cost 100k - not 150k.

VADA turns out to be charge MORE than USADA and does much less than a WADA signatory.


When it's all said and done I blame idiots like you.

wow what jibberish. first off i have no idea where you got your numbers but you are clearly wrong about the 100k. it was 150k and it was paid up front. giant hit to your credibility.


usada cost no where near 150k during that time period. look at some stats, the usual usada testing fee was 15-35k. not 150k. trying to conflate how much vada costs with how much usada costs is completely irrelevant. your own conflation argument makes no sense because in it you say vada costs more yet that proves that floyd overpaid usada since usada costs less! so even using your silly argument you made no sense. for example you said vada charges 50k for 21 tests and usada did 22 for floyd-pac...yet the very next line you said vada charges more so you own goaled yourself there proving the 150k was not needed and was a gross overpayment(bribe).

[Robbie Barrett]

wow what jibberish. first off i have no idea where you got your numbers but you are clearly wrong about the 100k. it was 150k and it was paid up front. giant hit to your credibility.


usada cost no where near 150k during that time period. look at some stats, the usual usada testing fee was 15-35k. not 150k. trying to conflate how much vada costs with how much usada costs is completely irrelevant. your own conflation argument makes no sense because in it you say vada costs more yet that proves that floyd overpaid usada since usada costs less! so even using your silly argument you made no sense. for example you said vada charges 50k for 21 tests and usada did 22 for floyd-pac...yet the very next line you said vada charges more so you own goaled yourself there proving the 150k was not needed and was a gross overpayment(bribe).

15-35k? Nonsense. They send multiple agents out to collect samples, they have to pay the labs etc. You think they do 22 tests for 15k?