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  • MDPopescu
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    #41
    ... the "impression" was that Davison acted more like a friend and psychologist rather than a "boxing trainer"...

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    • Vinnykin
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Did he not weather a storm in Ortiz 1. Did he not stay committed and focused versus Fury? Further this is an excerpt from Bleacher Report "Unfortunately for the Frenchman, it was a round he would probably like to forget. Wilder got in close and landed several huge uppercuts in an extended flurry on the ropes, looking like a freight train powering through tissue paper".
      Weathering a storm, staying committed against Fury, following him around and looking for one punch is NOT fighting inside...... I haven't seen Wilder fight inside or put it on any one.

      Wilder windmilling people AFTER they have been buzzed with the right hand is NOT fighting inside, check my sig.... NOT inside fighting.

      You DKSAB about boxing if you try to give Wilder this ability with literally zero evidence in any of his 40+ fights.

      You are redefining inside fighting to try and fit your silly argument.

      Why an't you just accept he doesn't fight like that, focus on his strengths instead? like landing a nuke on peoples dome and then windmilling them to a KO?

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      • Vinnykin
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        #43
        Originally posted by BoxOfficer
        Actually, sections of that fight had something that looked like inside fighting, but it was a total joke, a mockery of the term. Honestly, I felt embarrassed merely looking at it.
        What I seen in that fight was a French sandbag getting wailed on and trying to defend himself..... not throwing back, Wilder gets in close sometimes but he is windmilling and the guy is not fighting back...... NO inside fighting.

        To try and showcase Wilder's inside fighting where he just batters a French sandbag with 5 weeks notice, in his backyard, for 11 rounds..... is sad.

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #44
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Chisora and Hammer are bigger than Wilder. Chisora is much bigger.
          Heavier....not necessarily bigger. Leverage is a thing in fighting.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            Weathering a storm, staying committed against Fury, following him around and looking for one punch is NOT fighting inside...... I haven't seen Wilder fight inside or put it on any one.

            Wilder windmilling people AFTER they have been buzzed with the right hand is NOT fighting inside, check my sig.... NOT inside fighting.

            You DKSAB about boxing if you try to give Wilder this ability with literally zero evidence in any of his 40+ fights.

            You are redefining inside fighting to try and fit your silly argument.

            Why an't you just accept he doesn't fight like that, focus on his strengths instead? like landing a nuke on peoples dome and then windmilling them to a KO?
            You said that Wilder had never "toughed it out". I gave you examples. Also...watch the last minute of the first round of Wilder vs Duhappas. That is just a example of the inside fighting from Wilder.

            Seems like you're on the verge of a name calling meltdown. Let's keep it civil. This isn't an argument.

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #46
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... the "impression" was that Davison acted more like a friend and psychologist rather than a "boxing trainer"...
              I think he needs that more than a boxing trainer.

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              • Vinnykin
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                #47
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                You said that Wilder had never "toughed it out". I gave you examples. Also...watch the last minute of the first round of Wilder vs Duhappas. That is just a example of the inside fighting from Wilder.

                Seems like you're on the verge of a name calling meltdown. Let's keep it civil. This isn't an argument.
                You seem to be obsessed by the Duhaupas fight, the French champion on 5 weeks notice, well known to turtle every time people start throwing on him.

                He is a 6'3 small heavyweight on 5 weeks notice, would never win a British title.

                Inside fighting is not Wilder throwing combos on someone with their guard up when he is close.

                You need to learn inside fighting, staying on someones chest, landing body shots, keeping your head guarded, tying up an arm or stopping that from happening etc

                The Duhaupas fight shows no evidence of any ability from Wilder to fight inside.

                P.S - calling your argument silly is hardly name-calling.... grow up. Also, when you provide ridiculous evidence in any argument (which we are having by the way) expect to get called out out about it.

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                • MDPopescu
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  I think he needs that more than a boxing trainer.
                  ... Fury is more of a Gypsy actor... (and Gypsies don't need psychologists; we do need... )

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin
                    You seem to be obsessed by the Duhaupas fight, the French champion on 5 weeks notice, well known to turtle every time people start throwing on him.

                    He is a 6'3 small heavyweight on 5 weeks notice, would never win a British title.

                    Inside fighting is not Wilder throwing combos on someone with their guard up when he is close.

                    You need to learn inside fighting, staying on someones chest, landing body shots, keeping your head guarded, tying up an arm or stopping that from happening etc

                    The Duhaupas fight shows no evidence of any ability from Wilder to fight inside.

                    P.S - calling your argument silly is hardly name-calling.... grow up. Also, when you provide ridiculous evidence in any argument (which we are having by the way) expect to get called out out about it.
                    You have described multiple aspects of inside fighting but the lack of some of those aspects does not make what transpires in a fight not inside fighting. The basic premise of inside fighting is being in the pocket chest to chest throwing short range shots. You described techniques for accomplishing that. Great!

                    Now to your need to grow up. Do it. It will serve you well. Oh and watch the whole fight.

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                      #50
                      It seems like a consensus that people just don't like Wilder for some reason or another.

                      He's undefeated, he fought tomato cans... Ok.
                      He is the WBC champ, he has not fought anyone note-worthy... Ok
                      He has 39 knockouts in 42 fights, he fought idiots who stood there and got hit... Ok.
                      He has knocked down every fighter he fought against, he is a lucky windmiller with no skill... Ok.

                      The man is entertaining. He is no Ali, no Leonard. He is power puncher who got lucky 39 times and held the belt for 10 straight fights. One was a draw and yes by the cards Fury should have won but he didn't, and they will settle it. He is entertaining for the sport, and if he was a bum that everyone says he is then he would be some rando journeyman with a maybe 65% win ratio and not even mentioned with Fury or Joshua. And if he loses on feb 22 and WINS every fight after you will still call him trash.

                      If he is the man that all the people that seemingly don't like him once he loses the belt, he'll never get another chance and the mega fight turns to joshua v fury or maybe even someone else. Who knows.

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