Comments Thread For: Whyte vs. Andy Ruiz in Serious Talks, But Povetkin is Frontrunner

[Vinnykin]

Good fight if it happens. Ruiz has the speed but Whyte can crack...... 50-50 from my standpoint but I'd pick Whyte due to his chin and power inside..... that short left-hook would keep Ruiz in check I think.

[famicommander]

Hard to stay motivated in boxing going through fight after fight and not getting anywhere.

I believe it is mental with Whyte, like most boxers. He has had a tough road to where he is. The ban, coming back injured and getting KO'd by Joshua for the British, building himself back, getting #1 with WBC and fighting tough fights, to get passed over time and again, offered chump change by Joshua.... then the drug "anomaly"......

He wants his shot against Wilder and to then fight Joshua..... paid loads of money to them...... he is an angry man and needs to refocus.

I disagree.

I think Whyte's plan all along has been to try to inherit a belt by being promoted from interim status.

He was ordered to fight Pulev in an IBF eliminator, refused.

He was ordered to fight Ortiz in a WBC eliminator, refused.

He was offered the chance to fight Breazeale to jump into Breazeale's mando spot, refused.

He was offered the Joshua rematch for the belts, refused.

He's hoping Wilder takes the cowardly Franchise belt like Canelo and Loma did.

He knows if he fights Joshua or Wilder, he'll get knocked out faster than he did against Joshua the first time. He's a fat repeat cheater that doesn't move his head and got floored against pillow-fisted punchers like Parker and Rivas.

[Vinnykin]

I disagree.

I think Whyte's plan all along has been to try to inherit a belt by being promoted from interim status.

He was ordered to fight Pulev in an IBF eliminator, refused.

He was ordered to fight Ortiz in a WBC eliminator, refused.

He was offered the chance to fight Breazeale to jump into Breazeale's mando spot, refused.

He was offered the Joshua rematch for the belts, refused.

He's hoping Wilder takes the cowardly Franchise belt like Canelo and Loma did.

He knows if he fights Joshua or Wilder, he'll get knocked out faster than he did against Joshua the first time. He's a fat repeat cheater that doesn't move his head and got floored against pillow-fisted punchers like Parker and Rivas.

That is probably the worst take to have on Whyte that could exist.

I won't bother responding to each one.... they have already been countered on here many times.

[famicommander]

That is probably the worst take to have on Whyte that could exist.

I won't bother responding to each one.... they have already been countered on here many times.

So he's not a fat repeat cheater that got floored by Parker and Rivas, and only beat Parker because of a headbutt that was ruled a knockdown?

He didn't refuse to fight multiple eliminators? Don't give me that "lowball" crap, eliminators go to purse bids if they can't agree on a split.

[Vinnykin]

So he's not a fat repeat cheater that got floored by Parker and Rivas, and only beat Parker because of a headbutt that was ruled a knockdown?

He didn't refuse to fight multiple eliminators? Don't give me that "lowball" crap, eliminators go to purse bids if they can't agree on a split.

He was an under-privileged, Jamiacan man that liked fighting... when he tested positive the first time he was taking an over-the-counter supplement that was popular in Kickboxing circles when he fought in that sport.... he had no team, no money to hire people that could even TELL him there was something in it that was recently banned.

Ignorance, not being clued up on recent testing and WADA rulings, yes.... drug cheat? no, not in my opinion.

He was tested 40 times by VADA last year and pays for that testing himself, for all his fights........ he is clean according to the WBC and VADA (they do not recognise UKAD usually, but did to push him back again for his mandatory)... the reason he got off was because it was a small amount and UKAD actually used his VADA tests in the days before as evidence that he wasn't taking it and was likely contamination.

He refused Pulev due to the split %, and the fact he was going for the WBC and was a title holder there (silver I believe).

Whyte had a fight organised and Breazeale fought Molina I believe instead (was declared a final eliminator after, sketchy WBC strike again)

Ortiz was PBC to the bone and has been lied to about Whyte and Joshua offers...... nothing there concrete.

To summarise: I believe the WBC are in-bed with PBC and protecting Wilder, they want to avoid mandatory obligations with rival promoters at all costs.

They will not order purse bids with Whyte, which would then be won by Hearn and the fight happening in the UK.

That is what I believe

Luckily Fury will relieve him of his ABC title next month.

[Sid-Knee]

Typical Hearns promise the world but get a fad ex champ in Potvetkin Ruiz will not fight Whyte 💯

Can you explain yourself in a clearer manner please?

What are you trying to say? Hearn has done him wrong? How? Where? It's not his fault Wilder, Haymon and the WBC have teamed up together to keep Whyte away. What else is he supposed to do with so much corruption and cowardice in the US?

Hearn is getting him good fights that matter because Povetkin isn't a delusional coward that runs away like Wilder and Miller do. There's big money fights against the best whenever the American cowards want them. But you should know by now that all they do is talk about wanting the fights. As soon as the call is answered, they run away as per usual.

[Sid-Knee]

Both easily top 10 guys Ring / boxrec etc etc both cracking fights for his 29th fight and he could have just sat on his mandatory.

Wilder fought no one anywhere near this quality in his first 28 fights go check on boxrec.

Apart from a very damaged Fury coming from nearly 3 years of abuse and obesity, Wilder has never fought anyone of Povetkin's calibre. Forget in his first 28 fights. He hasn't done it yet. That's how pathetic that fraud's "Career" truly is.

[Sid-Knee]

Whyte should be fed with active boxers who are in their prime not those at the tail end of their careers.

Like who? Who would be willing to fight him that doesn't have a fight? Wilder has ran for 3 years. Miller doesn't want it. None of Haymon's chumps will want it. So who?

[Sid-Knee]

Shyte doesn't have the balls to fight Ruiz next imho.(if he does hed at least be showing hes not a complete fraud & it would at least be SOME attempt of redemption for why hes now known as NeedleJuice)

It's Ruiz who will turn it down. An offer has been sent but Ruiz is more interested in getting rid of his trainer and continuing being fat.

Whyte was found innocent of juicing. It's Canelo who wasn't. But don't worry, I know what a deranged hypocrite and psycho nationalist you clearly are.

Learn the meaning of irony... It's Ruiz who is in need of redemption after having all his words slapped out of him and revealing him to be a fraud. But use all the weak and pathetic excuses like you do because you can't deal with the truth. Just stay as deluded and laughable as you've always been.

[Sid-Knee]

Whyte resume is like Margarito after the first Cotto fight. Every W needs to be reappraised because he’s a drug cheat. And even doped up he got gift Ws vs Parker, Rivas and first Chisora

Whyte has really messed you up hasn't he? Damn, I didn't know you where this threatened by him making the coward Wilder run for so long. Haha.

And no, Whyte beat all 3. The closest was the first Chisora fight. But he edged it. Just. The Parker fight by 4 on my card. The Rivas fight was wide and clear. Anyone thinking otherwise should stop attempting to score fights because they seriously can't.