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  • Mikeh333
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    Canelo and Steroids?

    Based on some career highlights, we may be able to make some observations concerning Canelo’s possible use of steroids, growth hormone, or other PEDs.

    See a video below that is a quick retrospective of Canelo’s career. It does not include the Kovalev fight.

    https://*************/watch?v=nxBldlDL5S8

    Here are the Kovalev fight highlights.

    https://*************/watch?v=qjsU5876iB0&t=12s

    Here are a few observations. This is not intended to be definitive, or the final word.

    1. Canelo appears to take punches better now than he did at super welterweight. See the fight against J. Cotto at 154 - Canelo was very nearly knocked out. Yet Canelo was hit plenty by GGG, and never came close to getting knocked out. Kovalev and Danny Jacob hardly seemed to rattle him. Both fighters hit far harder than Cotto, I’m sure.

    2. Canelo’s power is the same, if not increased, at higher weight classes. He knocked people out at 154, and he knocks them out at 160, 168, and 175. This seems very unusual in any fighter.

    3. To my eye, Canelo appears at least as lean, if not more lean, at 175 as he was at 154. I leave room for some sort of major overhaul in his diet over the past 7-8 years. Perhaps as a young man he ate foods he was allergic to, or that caused him inflammation. If he is free of those foods, it is conceivable, I suppose, that he was able to put on more muscle with little to no fat. But it would be unusual to say the least. Roy Jones Jr definitely carried a little more fat at HW than he did at SMW and LHW.

    Similarly, it is possible that Canelo appears to take and deliver punches better now because he is a better fighter, more elusive, throws from more advantageous angles, etc. He started very young, and grew and improved over time.

    I’ll repeat, this I not a definitive answer. Nor can it be completely objective. But there is room for discussion here.

    I look forward to your thoughts!
  • Mikeh333
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    Sorry, I am not sure how to embed those videos.

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    • mcdonalds
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      Canelo was 19 and fought Jose Cotto at 150 pounds.

      When you're young you make ****** mistakes and get hit by punches you don't see,and when you're cutting a lot of weight you can lose punch resistance and diminish your own punching power.

      Last edited by mcdonalds; 01-21-2020, 01:48 PM.

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      • Mindgames
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        #4
        Originally posted by Mikeh333
        Based on some career highlights, we may be able to make some observations concerning Canelo’s possible use of steroids, growth hormone, or other PEDs.

        See a video below that is a quick retrospective of Canelo’s career. It does not include the Kovalev fight.

        https://*************/watch?v=nxBldlDL5S8

        Here are the Kovalev fight highlights.

        https://*************/watch?v=qjsU5876iB0&t=12s

        Here are a few observations. This is not intended to be definitive, or the final word.

        1. Canelo appears to take punches better now than he did at super welterweight. See the fight against J. Cotto at 154 - Canelo was very nearly knocked out. Yet Canelo was hit plenty by GGG, and never came close to getting knocked out. Kovalev and Danny Jacob hardly seemed to rattle him. Both fighters hit far harder than Cotto, I’m sure.

        2. Canelo’s power is the same, if not increased, at higher weight classes. He knocked people out at 154, and he knocks them out at 160, 168, and 175. This seems very unusual in any fighter.

        3. To my eye, Canelo appears at least as lean, if not more lean, at 175 as he was at 154. I leave room for some sort of major overhaul in his diet over the past 7-8 years. Perhaps as a young man he ate foods he was allergic to, or that caused him inflammation. If he is free of those foods, it is conceivable, I suppose, that he was able to put on more muscle with little to no fat. But it would be unusual to say the least. Roy Jones Jr definitely carried a little more fat at HW than he did at SMW and LHW.

        Similarly, it is possible that Canelo appears to take and deliver punches better now because he is a better fighter, more elusive, throws from more advantageous angles, etc. He started very young, and grew and improved over time.

        I’ll repeat, this I not a definitive answer. Nor can it be completely objective. But there is room for discussion here.

        I look forward to your thoughts!
        As someone who's done a hell of alot of weight training, and has lots of friends and two nephews who've juice one of the tale tale signs are the neck and shoulder muscles, especially the round side delts, what we call, 3d delts. They are very rare in naturals, same goes for the big traps. They are the muscle groups that grow most due to androgen use, and Canelos certainly got them. He also seems to shrink clearly between fights.

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        • mxtali
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          Someone else already touched on this but you don’t think someone’s punch resistance will increase from 19 to 28 years old? He took punches fine at 154 by the way. The Jose Cotto fight was the only time he was ever hurt.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            Stephen Edwards and his alts! All day errrday!

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            • juandabomb
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              Originally posted by mcdonalds
              Canelo was 19 and fought Jose Cotto at 150 pounds.

              When you're young you make ****** mistakes and get hit by punches you don't see,and when you're cutting a lot of weight you can lose punch resistance and diminish your own punching power.

              cotto was always a 135 lb fighting canelo at 147..he wasn't much of a power puncher

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              • Joe Beamish
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                #8
                Canelo would NEVER chemically enhance his abilities, nor would anyone EVER cover up such a thing in order to keep milking the cash cow.

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                • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                  The haters are hilarious. they jsut make alts after alts to try to smear a Mexican! I WONDER WHY! FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by juandabomb
                    cotto was always a 135 lb fighting canelo at 147..he wasn't much of a power puncher
                    wasn't much of a puncher?! Dude you DKSAB!! lol. Jose Cotto had 71% KO ratio coming in to fight Canelo. His last 3 fights at Welterweight were by KO too... Canelo since his debut was basically fighting at Welterweight. I assure you ALL THE YOUNG GUNS TODAY, like Haney and Ryan Garcia will look significantly bigger in 10 years! So Jose Cotto isn't a ''Puncher'' because history hasn't shown that power can't follow a fighter moving up just one class?!? Are you serious?! Paulie Malignaggi got a 15% KO ratio his whole career... these are the types that you say aren't a ''puncher.''

                    Dude go hit a heavy bag and think about professional boxing and its possibilities.. lol

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