Wilder's ducking is making him look like a hard bargainer

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  • Froch_uppercut
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    Wilder's ducking is making him look like a hard bargainer

    Let's look at some simple and clear facts.

    1. Wilder's supposed 50M 'offer' was verbal and was not backed by any written terms and conditions.

    2. It is wrong to say it was declined, they simply asked to see written terms - when they were told they had to sign an historical world heavyweight title event without even knowing where it would be, or any other terms and conditions, they simply said no thanks, declining it for the ridiculous proposal it was.

    3. Hearn and co have made many attempts to reach Finkel and Wilder, who don't answer the phone. Literally, they won't pick up the calls lol

    4. A genuine offer in excess of $100,000,000.00 was handed to Wilder, but that was not enough for the bronze medalist.

    5. Wilder talked openly of fighting Ruiz, but won't engage in a conversation about fighting AJ.

    For a guy who runs his mouth about "one name one face" he has made zero effort to make the fight. This has had the effect of him appearing to be driving a hard bargain, when in actuality he simply don't want it. He's been offered way more than he deserves. He will get offered 50/50 and turn it down, or make an excuse.
    Folks, these are FACTS. His ducking is driving the price up, but he still don't want AJ. Or Whyte, who would end that hype train. Hopefully Fury puts boxing fans out of their misery and takes the belt, but Fury is hardly very active either, fighting Otto Wallin types. Gimme AJ or Whyte or any American heavyweight who will make fights happen - not this idiot colluding with the WBC. They're hurting our sport.
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    Prize Fight meaning: 1. a boxing match in which people fight to win money .


    Boxing is the sport to try and win the most money available when it presents itself .

    Wilder in the sport he’s in has not done that and did the exact opposite to what is usually a fighter taking the highest offers and purses guaranteed to them .

    Now he can claim money don’t matter which he has but he also cannot claim he really wanted the AJ fight and also make demands which are purposeful to sabotage a fight which he also has done .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-21-2020, 08:53 AM.

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    • mxtali
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      #3
      DAZN head: “We messed up the wilder negotiations.”

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      • OnlytheTruth
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        #4
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Now he can claim money don’t matter which he has but he also cannot claim he really wanted the AJ fight and also make demands which are purposeful to sabotage a fight which he also has done .
        If money didn't matter, why did he say he declined the DAZN offer because they wouldn't share how much Joshua was getting? Sounds a lot like money to me.

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        • SplitSecond
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          PBC in general are just a bunch of guys ducking/cherrypicking and hiding away. Haymon took a risk just trying to build Wilder up with a fraudulen win over 3 year inactive fat Fury, now he runs the risk of Fury taking a belt away from his monopoly game. He’s got 2 more shots at winning it all. I doubt they fight Joshua unless Wilder has a near 100% chance to win. Same way I doubt Crawford-Spence would happen even if Crawford was huge, they aren’t risking losing any belts to outside sources. It will always be fight Porter who has nothing to lose, or fight Ruiz, and then they’ll try their darnest to run with the belt like Ruiz was trying to do.

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            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            PBC in general are just a bunch of guys ducking/cherrypicking and hiding away. Haymon took a risk just trying to build Wilder up with a fraudulen win over 3 year inactive fat Fury, now he runs the risk of Fury taking a belt away from his monopoly game. He’s got 2 more shots at winning it all. I doubt they fight Joshua unless Wilder has a near 100% chance to win. Same way I doubt Crawford-Spence would happen even if Crawford was huge, they aren’t risking losing any belts to outside sources. It will always be fight Porter who has nothing to lose, or fight Ruiz, and then they’ll try their darnest to run with the belt like Ruiz was trying to do.
            Pretty good analysis. But you don't seem to realize all Wilder fights are rigged, including all Wilder vs Fury "fights." Zero chance in hell Haymon and finkel risk Wilder losing badly to Fury. It would destroy Wilder's value and leverage vs Joshua. Wilder's entire career is a scam, it's all about creating an illusion and sustaining it.

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            • SplitSecond
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              Originally posted by Monzon99
              Pretty good analysis. But you don't seem to realize all Wilder fights are rigged, including all Wilder vs Fury "fights." Zero chance in hell Haymon and finkel risk Wilder losing badly to Fury. It would destroy Wilder's value and leverage vs Joshua. Wilder's entire career is a scam, it's all about creating an illusion and sustaining it.
              I know. People talk about Canelo’s cards, that’s one fighter, Haymons cards have been badly rigged for a long time. Fury know’s this too I’d wager. He’ll have to beat Wilder from pillar to post for 12 or KO him. And then of course, do it all over again.

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              • Ray*
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                Let’s leave this until 2021. He has two fights signed up now. The hope is for the division to be unified even if it meant the last man standing retires right after that. But if the winner doesn’t fight whoever has the other belts by 2021 ending then they would be called duckers.

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                • Robi13
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                  Except wilder isn’t ducking 😂

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mxtali
                    DAZN head: “We messed up the wilder negotiations.”
                    Didn't say that. Stop lying.

                    When dealing with a tarded coward and a guy that takes advantage of tarded cowards (Haymon) you need a different approach to normal people.
                    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 01-21-2020, 10:43 AM.

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