Comments Thread For: Kownacki: After Helenius, I Want The Wilder vs. Fury Winner!

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  • koolkc107
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    #41
    Originally posted by Dariusz
    ...and beating Breazeale would be ?
    Actually, yeah.

    Breazeale is still top 15 on BoxRec and 17th on the IBO computerized rankings; Helenius is 34th on BoxRec and 55th on the IBO.

    Big difference.

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    • a.rihn
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      #42
      Originally posted by kiaba360
      Move slower than he already is? Kownacki is only fighting twice a year and isn't facing challenging opposition either. Martin and Arreola played into his style, and he ran over Szpilka/Washington.
      I was unclear, I'm sorry. My comment about "slower" was only in reference to *if* they put him in with the Wilder-Fury winner after Helenius. THAT would seem too fast for me.

      I'm with many of the other commenters here - Brezeale or Whyte or Ruiz after Helenius, or a couple of them, before going for a belt.

      I hope that's more clear.

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      • a.rihn
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        #43
        Also, what would you all say about Kownacki versus Usyk?

        Stylistically it feels kind of . . . terrible. But like, I'm also kinda fascinated by the idea now.

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        • jondacon
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          #44
          Let Breezy get a W, then feed him to Kow next.

          Also get Efe an Eliminator, fight him within the next 2 years.

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          • Haraldsen
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            #45
            We'll see

            Well, Washington was extremely lucky vs Helenius, who was leading the fight significantly. Helenius got careless just before the end and it was a bad mistake. He wont do that again. If he'd wann that fight he'd be about nr 10 in rankings. How would you consider this coming fight then.
            Helenius had fought way more difficult fighters that Kow ever done, for ex Whyte and Chisora. Kow is almost 10 cm shorter and loses 8 cm also on reach. Helenius got situation "all in", which is a booster, especially when Kow thinks he'll have "a walk in the park".
            I think Kow will ne surprised. Dont have to remind what happened to AJ, when he ordered himself an underdog. And the same almost happened to Fury against Wallin.
            Last edited by Haraldsen; 03-08-2020, 05:35 AM. Reason: Just like assumed

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            • Articulateboxin
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dariusz
              Everyone from top 10 already had at least one fight for the belt in their carrers.
              Kownacki deserves a shot more than anyone else, simple as that.

              Moreover, I strongly believe he will win the belt.
              I don't think Whyte has fought for a world title and if Kownacki sneaks in before him, well i'd like to see the fallout of that

              As a side note, I was really looking forward to the Breazeale fight. This is a huge let down for me personally. I think the Charles Martin fight really changed the trajectory of his immediate career

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #47
                Originally posted by Haraldsen
                Well, Washington was extremely lucky vs Helenius, who was leading the fight significantly. Helenius got careless just before the end and it was a bad mistake. He wont do that again. If he'd wann that fight he'd be about nr 10 in rankings. How would you consider this coming fight then.
                Helenius had fought way more difficult fighters that Kow ever done, for ex Whyte and Chisora. Kow is almost 10 cm shorter and loses 8 cm also on reach. Helenius got situation "all in", which is a booster, especially when Kow thinks he'll have "a walk in the park".
                I think Kow will ne surprised. Dont have to remind what happened to AJ, when he ordered himself an underdog. And the same almost happened to Fury against Wallin.
                Washington rocked him with 2-3 punches, which means, Helenius was in terrible shape, i don`t know how was washington lucky.

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                • Skinny kinny
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DougalDylan
                  Err whyte wishes been number 1 for 800 days and is mandatory and never had a belt shot.
                  Let's face it next will be kowanaki, al will find way but don't try and justify it.
                  Poor dillian how terrible they treat him. The ibf wouldn’t give him the Pulev title shot just because he wouldn’t fight pulev. They wouldn’t give him the Joshua shot just because his own promoter lowballed him then passed him over for a short fat guy from another promotion and a big black juiced up guy. The wbc screwed him over by giving him eliminators vs Ortiz fury and Breazelle and then letting all of them fight before him just because he wouldn’t fight any of those guys. Then the wbc punished him by letting him stay the mandatory even after he failed the drug test in an eliminator that he got to handpick and after 6 months suddenly be cleared. The stuff people do to this poor guy. 800 days. Be strong poor dillian

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                  • MEXICAN STYLE
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                    #49
                    Get in line b1tch !

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                    • Haraldsen
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                      #50
                      Just check the scorecards, and you see what I mean.

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