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  • MulaKO
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    #41
    The dope must be fughin strong
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    Title should be : Welcome to my Bullchit , The Amazing World Of Disney

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    • Marchegiano
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      #42
      Originally posted by Monzon99
      Whyte was no. 1 contender. Won other WBC titles, paid his WBC sanctioning fees, but sulaiman blocked whyte from his earned shot vs wilder under the orders of haymon.

      Wilder ducked career high payday offers to face Whyte Obvious blatant ongoing duck by the big alabama installed protected fraud.
      It's no one's fault but your own if you don't understand what the WBC mandates are

      Whyte ducked his oppertunity to be the mandatory. The WBC Silver guarantees top rank not mandatory. Mandos and number one contender have never been hand in hand.

      Whyte was offered Breazeal as a final elim and said no.

      Whyte was offered Ortiz has second mandatory after Dom and Whyte said no.

      Whyte seems to think he can cry his way into having the WBC change their rules for him so that now WBC Silver = mandatory even though that title had already been in the hands of others who were never named mandatory for the WBC champion.

      In 2014 Bermane was champion and Takam then Povetkin in 2015 held the silver. Why did Bermane fight Arreola or Wilder? How was Wilder made the mandatory when all he fought was Scott while Povetkin was the WBC Silver champion?

      Oh but poor, poor Dillian Whyte. Gets offered the chance to earn mando and instead cries about his being a silver champion


      Guess Daniel Dubois is the current WBC mando is he? Dumbass.

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      • Monzon99
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        #43
        Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
        You are talking to a Joshua fan so you don't have to try and convince me about Joshua's money making ability but make no mistake, his money making ability is purely down to Matchroom's wallet. PBC haven't pumped loads of cash into Wilder's career like Matchroom have with Joshua.

        Yes, both of their fights after the 1st fight weren't great sellers but there has always been the underlying marketing of Wilder/Fury 2. Considering that there was talk of signing for a rematch and the WBC ordering it, the popularity for this fight has been growing for a year now. So they've done nothing yet promoted it by remaining active in the media.

        Same thing is happening for Joshua/Wilder except Wilder is going to get a bigger slice of the cake than he did. That happened on or after the 1st fight (can't remember exactly when) as Hearn is now saying Joshua/Wilder is 50/50.
        Joshua is not a superstar because Matchroom pumped money into promoting him. It's because he's the best, he unified four titles and he beat the best - Klitschko in one of the most exciting hwt thrillers of all time.

        Wilder is not a fraud pretender who makes peanuts because Haymon and Finkel have not pumped big money into promoting him. Wilder is a fraud pretender because his whole career is fixed fake knockouts against hired patsies and cowardly ducking the best for gargantuan paydays. Only a fraud coward pretender ducks $120m to fight AJ.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          It's no one's fault but your own if you don't understand what the WBC mandates are

          Whyte ducked his oppertunity to be the mandatory. The WBC Silver guarantees top rank not mandatory. Mandos and number one contender have never been hand in hand.

          Whyte was offered Breazeal as a final elim and said no.

          Whyte was offered Ortiz has second mandatory after Dom and Whyte said no.

          Whyte seems to think he can cry his way into having the WBC change their rules for him so that now WBC Silver = mandatory even though that title had already been in the hands of others who were never named mandatory for the WBC champion.

          In 2014 Bermane was champion and Takam then Povetkin in 2015 held the silver. Why did Bermane fight Arreola or Wilder? How was Wilder made the mandatory when all he fought was Scott while Povetkin was the WBC Silver champion?

          Oh but poor, poor Dillian Whyte. Gets offered the chance to earn mando and instead cries about his being a silver champion


          Guess Daniel Dubois is the current WBC mando is he? Dumbass.
          Breazeale ducked Whyte, not the other way around.

          Whyte earned his shot, did not need to beat Ortiz and then be roadblocked again by another Haymon sulaiman roadblock. Whyte earned his shot 600 days ago.

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            #45
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            First off if it's fixed then who in your opinion is going to win.
            Secondly. Someone is going to have get knocked out if it's fixed because all rounds to a decision victory go through the judges. They do what the Casino's decide is in their best interests. So pre-arranging a winner based on a decision is ludicrous.
            My theory is it will be rigged so both retain value and leverage for possible AJ fights down the road. But if wilder and fury can be manufactured into huge money makers by these fraud fights, they will both duck AJ forever.

            Something fake will happen on 2-22, a DQ or injury or cut or quick dive. Then the third fight will be another draw. Haymon and Arum have a business alliance now, they are partners. I am certain Fury and Wilder are using each other to try to be come superstars. Haymon and Arum need each other now because they are afraid to lose to AJ, losing to AJ now ends Fury and Wilder.

            Haymon and Finkel and Arum want to greed millions from you before they sacrifice to Joshua.

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            • Monzon99
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              #46
              Only a terrible fool would think Haymon or Arum would allow Wilder or Fury to lose now by KO or bad decision loss for $5m when both are in ine to earn $100m vs AJ. Fury and Wilder will be rigged.

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              • OnlytheTruth
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                #47
                Originally posted by Monzon99
                Joshua is not a superstar because Matchroom pumped money into promoting him. It's because he's the best, he unified four titles and he beat the best - Klitschko in one of the most exciting hwt thrillers of all time.

                Wilder is not a fraud pretender who makes peanuts because Haymon and Finkel have not pumped big money into promoting him. Wilder is a fraud pretender because his whole career is fixed fake knockouts against hired patsies and cowardly ducking the best for gargantuan paydays. Only a fraud coward pretender ducks $120m to fight AJ.
                Dude, Hearn paid Charles Martin more cash to fight Joshua and not Wilder. Joshua has been the cash cow for a long time. Its only not as apparent as it was because Wilder and Fury are generating revenue in their circumstance.

                Joshua isn't the best. I'm sorry to disagree with you but his path has been laid in front of him by a mountain of money and circumstance. His current rank of #3 is fair. I would say #2. Maybe #2 after Fury/Wilder.

                I agree with you that Wilder should have accepted $120m but too much has been said by Wilder about becoming Undisputed to never take that fight. I'd let up on Wilder because IF he KO's AJ, Joshua will never be able to one-up Wilder - and it'll be heartbreak for all Joshua fans, me included.

                Yes, Wilder's record is inflated but his resume in the last few years has been ok. He has fought 3 guys that Joshua has and its swings and roundabouts on the outcome. His KO of Breazeale was spectacular.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Galactic Larry
                  The guy was never mandatory and isnt mandatory now..he refused to fight title eliminators..I have no issue in watching him get comatosed but He is not mando
                  he is and was the mandatory, full stop. even without the mandatory position, wilder turned down career high paydays to fight him. Again, what's that all about?

                  forget politics...in boxing, the stories sell themselves. Miller calling AJ's mum, sold that fight.
                  believe it or not but wilder vs whyte was a far better fight to sell the public than wilder vs ortiz or brezeale. AJ vs Whyte for example was THE fight that pushed AJs status in the uk...many who watched that fight loved it and became fans of boxing. I have young cousins who love UFC and hate boxing. They all sat and watched may-pac and in the end said 'boxing is boring crap'..but the aj-whyte fight convinced them there are also proper fights in boxing.
                  imagine the press conference and face off for wilder-whyte...real beef.
                  when i watched wilder-fury press conferences and face off, as entertaining as it was, i knew it was fake..they're just 2 buddies pretending to have beef to 'sell' the fight. Whyte comes in real..
                  also i firmly beleive wilder would ruin whyte...and the US fans would LOVE it...so why didnt wilder just take up the opportunity to elevate his own status through that fight? answer..politics, al haymon and finkle.
                  wilder would have worked with EH and realised he's a good person to do business with. fact is all the money fights for wilder are through matchroom and dazn.

                  one of the members of the wbc board works for al haymon btw...corruption as clear as day.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Inspired
                    he is and was the mandatory, full stop. even without the mandatory position, wilder turned down career high paydays to fight him. Again, what's that all about?

                    forget politics...in boxing, the stories sell themselves. Miller calling AJ's mum, sold that fight.
                    believe it or not but wilder vs whyte was a far better fight to sell the public than wilder vs ortiz or brezeale. AJ vs Whyte for example was THE fight that pushed AJs status in the uk...many who watched that fight loved it and became fans of boxing. I have young cousins who love UFC and hate boxing. They all sat and watched may-pac and in the end said 'boxing is boring crap'..but the aj-whyte fight convinced them there are also proper fights in boxing.
                    imagine the press conference and face off for wilder-whyte...real beef.
                    when i watched wilder-fury press conferences and face off, as entertaining as it was, i knew it was fake..they're just 2 buddies pretending to have beef to 'sell' the fight. Whyte comes in real..
                    also i firmly beleive wilder would ruin whyte...and the US fans would LOVE it...so why didnt wilder just take up the opportunity to elevate his own status through that fight? answer..politics, al haymon and finkle.
                    wilder would have worked with EH and realised he's a good person to do business with. fact is all the money fights for wilder are through matchroom and dazn.

                    one of the members of the wbc board works for al haymon btw...corruption as clear as day.

                    Unfortunately Haymon and Finkel have no confidence in Wilder to risk him in a REAL fight vs Whyte. It will not happen. Wilder is a total fraud. Yes Whyte vs AJ was a REAL fight, those create fans, like AJ vs WK was REAL. All of Wilder's fights are fake fraud shows. Hence why he can't draw or sell but peanuts.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Monzon99
                      Breazeale ducked Whyte, not the other way around.

                      Whyte earned his shot, did not need to beat Ortiz and then be roadblocked again by another Haymon sulaiman roadblock. Whyte earned his shot 600 days ago.
                      Nah bud, Whyte ducked Dom, that's why Dom kept the mando position. Whyte also turned down a Fury WBC elim.

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