Two tip offs yesterday Fury Wilder is fixed

[Monzon99]

Their big mistake was Arum not bothering to attend this BS press conference. If it was a real fight, the press conference would have been interesting and intriguing enough so that Arum would be excited to witness it. Arum sells us suckers how Fury has an Ali personality and charisma. But Arum knows this fight is fixed and he's now partners with Haymon and Fury's act for Wilder is all scripted.

Fury on a script is just as bad as Ali on a script - see the 1977 movie The Greatest. Ali is terrible as an actor even playing himself via a script.

Believe me, if this fight was real, Arum would have wanted to be there at the PC yesterday. But Arum can't waste his time on a rigged press conference where he knows everything said is all BS.

[Larry the boss]

he should have been and was, briefly...he's since been restored but has to wait. only because the wbc is corrupt. furthermore, ortiz lost to wilder, why should he have been in the picture at all? just more pbc/wbc bs.

wilder turned down career high paydays to fight whyte. fact is he's afraid of whyte.
look at aj, when miller called him out, he took the fight.
you even have evidence of wilder telling whyte he will make him wait 2 yrs.
what's that all about? pbc is a cancer to boxing.

The guy was never mandatory and isnt mandatory now..he refused to fight title eliminators..I have no issue in watching him get comatosed but He is not mando

[YoungManRumble]

Whyte has been mandatory for about 2 years? Maybe more? I forget how long.

He deserves his shot, he fought Joshua when he was still a novice and bearing in mind he had no amateur experience that shouldn’t be underestimated how well he performed.

He’s beaten Chisora (x2) , Parker, Browne and Rivas. More impressive than a lot of the other heavyweights near the top, far outweighing any achievements of Ortiz for example.

Clearly wilder ( had he did defended) against him would’ve have been strong favourite of course. Outside of Joshua though Whyte is probably the biggest name to have on the cv at the moment for him in my view

He may have had no amateur experience but had 21 pro kickboxing fights. I would imagine that is considerably better experience than fighting some beginner HW boxers to gain experience then fighting AJ in the ams. At heavyweight anyway, probably wouldn't translate as well at lower weights since more skill is involved generally. I mean he put some guy in a coma and probably should have never been in the amateurs and they seemed to agree with that hence his short stint and being prohibited from fighting in amateur bouts anymore.

[Marchegiano]

Haymon could have paid off Breazeale to step aside, Breazeale is a Haymon pawn.

They used Breazeale as mandatory to dodge Joshua.

I dunno what that's got to do with anything. My point was Whyte was not his mandatory.

[Monzon99]

I dunno what that's got to do with anything. My point was Whyte was not his mandatory.

Whyte was no. 1 contender. Won other WBC titles, paid his WBC sanctioning fees, but sulaiman blocked whyte from his earned shot vs wilder under the orders of haymon.

Wilder ducked career high payday offers to face Whyte Obvious blatant ongoing duck by the big alabama installed protected fraud.

[OnlytheTruth]

Fury and Wilder is a business alliance fraud fake fight. I 100% promise you neither will lose any value or leverage after these two fake fights. Both will retain value and leverage.

The problem is that the 1st fight has done that for them already! If the second fight is a quick KO, it doesn't damage either reputation because both camps know that the 1st fight did enough for HW boxing.

Rigged or not, the ground work as already been done.

As a fan, just enjoy the show!

[Monzon99]

The problem is that the 1st fight has done that for them already! If the second fight is a quick KO, it doesn't damage either reputation because both camps know that the 1st fight did enough for HW boxing.

Rigged or not, the ground work as already been done.

As a fan, just enjoy the show!

The first fight did not build their brand or elevate their revenue generating abilities. Both of their fights after the first fight were money duds. Fact. Haymon and Arum think this fake rematch will turn each into money stars like Joshua. But they are sadly mistaken. Only way to become a money star is to dare to fight and BEAT Joshua.

There is no way for Arum and Haymon to disguise their ducking of Joshua/Hearn with these fake WWF sparring sessions by Fury Wilder. They can fool a few dopes and morons but that's it.

[Richard]

With regards to the opening post I agree in part .You dont need to insult fighters to get the upper hand.You let your hands do the talking in the ring.Its why I like Daniel Dubois. He's humble and doesnt bad mouth his opponent.

I still dont feel this is a business alliance though.Both fighters deep down want to be the alpha fighter.

[OnlytheTruth]

The first fight did not build their brand or elevate their revenue generating abilities. Both of their fights after the first fight were money duds. Fact. Haymon and Arum think this fake rematch will turn each into money stars like Joshua. But they are sadly mistaken. Only way to become a money star is to dare to fight and BEAT Joshua.

There is no way for Arum and Haymon to disguise their ducking of Joshua/Hearn with these fake WWF sparring sessions by Fury Wilder. They can fool a few dopes and morons but that's it.

You are talking to a Joshua fan so you don't have to try and convince me about Joshua's money making ability but make no mistake, his money making ability is purely down to Matchroom's wallet. PBC haven't pumped loads of cash into Wilder's career like Matchroom have with Joshua.

Yes, both of their fights after the 1st fight weren't great sellers but there has always been the underlying marketing of Wilder/Fury 2. Considering that there was talk of signing for a rematch and the WBC ordering it, the popularity for this fight has been growing for a year now. So they've done nothing yet promoted it by remaining active in the media.

Same thing is happening for Joshua/Wilder except Wilder is going to get a bigger slice of the cake than he did. That happened on or after the 1st fight (can't remember exactly when) as Hearn is now saying Joshua/Wilder is 50/50.

[TonyGe]

Bob Arum didn't bother to attend the fraud press conference. The 89 year old has better things to do with his time than watch two pretenders talk about a pretend fight.

Neither Wilder or Fury dared to mention the name of the king of the division. Neither Fury or Wilder has any intention of ever fighting the real king of the sport.

All roads lead to Joshua.

Also, Fury will not dare personally belittle and insult Wilder like he did Klitschko. He verbally shredded Klitschko's boring personality and style and it hurt Klitschko's feelings. Very cruel by Fury. But Fury just spouts his BS cliches about gonna knock that bum out, while not verbally destroying Wilder like we know he can, like he did to poor Klitschko.

Fury and Wilder is a business alliance fraud fake fight. I 100% promise you neither will lose any value or leverage after these two fake fights. Both will retain value and leverage.

First off if it's fixed then who in your opinion is going to win.
Secondly. Someone is going to have get knocked out if it's fixed because all rounds to a decision victory go through the judges. They do what the Casino's decide is in their best interests. So pre-arranging a winner based on a decision is ludicrous.