How DidaMidget In a HW Class under 6 feet Get So Hyped ?

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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    He got hyped because he won all his fights, ducked nobody and beat everybody including respected Charles, Moore and Walcott. He was small
    but he had great punching power, chin, and workrate. He threw close to 100 hard punches a round while most of today's larger top heavyweights are throwing about 35 punches a round on average with a few exceptions.

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    • ruedboy
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      #12
      Fans struggle to compare fighters from this era until they fight each other and even then there's disagreements about whose better (ex. Alvarez v Golovkin).
      So, I don't think it's possible to fairly compare fighters from 70 years ago.

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        #13
        Yeah you can’t even compare era’s anyway.

        All sports people now are just better and stronger than the past. Boxing is no different. Other sports you can measure it with records, like athletics, so there’s no dispute. In boxing, there’s no definitive measurement, so we let sentiment come into the equation. It would be naive to think boxers today aren’t far superior athletes, when they are in all other sports. It’ just how it is.

        They also have a lot more advantages today though. Times change. We like to get sentimental about golden era’s but the truth is if you dropped a fighter straight from the 50’s or something into a fight today, they would get whooped. Of course, give them all the same training, strength and conditioning teams etc.. then it’s a different story. Of course people will say “they fought gruelling 15 rounders etc..” true, but it’s all relative, they were fighting them against guys in their era.

        That’s why you can’t compare era’s. There’s way too many factors involved to have a realistic and sensible comparison.

        All you can be is the best of your time.

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          #14
          I agree. Too small to compare to today's Heavyweights.

          But I am not surprised, I've seen people trying to compare and Ali and Tyson to Fury.

          They might as well be comparing Monzon and Hagler to Ali and Tyson.

          No doubt Fury could go 24 rounds in one night, dropping maybe 5 rounds to both.

          But we should still appreciate Ali and Tyson, and all the others for what they were in their time.

          Originally posted by deathofaclown
          Yeah you can’t even compare era’s anyway.

          All sports people now are just better and stronger than the past. Boxing is no different. Other sports you can measure it with records, like athletics, so there’s no dispute. In boxing, there’s no definitive measurement, so we let sentiment come into the equation. It would be naive to think boxers today aren’t far superior athletes, when they are in all other sports. It’ just how it is.

          They also have a lot more advantages today though. Times change. We like to get sentimental about golden era’s but the truth is if you dropped a fighter straight from the 50’s or something into a fight today, they would get whooped. Of course, give them all the same training, strength and conditioning teams etc.. then it’s a different story. Of course people will say “they fought gruelling 15 rounders etc..” true, but it’s all relative, they were fighting them against guys in their era.

          That’s why you can’t compare era’s. There’s way too many factors involved to have a realistic and sensible comparison.

          All you can be is the best of your time.
          Who Rocky's size today would beat him?

          I am not even sure that Usyk beats him, and Usyk would carry quite a bit of size and developmental experience into the ring.

          At 200 pounds and below, I haven't seen anyone who's a sure bet against Dempsey. Tunny and Louis are probably your best money, then Holyfield. You'll never see anyone nominate Jones, Haye or Beterbiev.

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Rocky was easily cut ,couldn’t throw a jab and despite being undefeated would never last long in a modern athletic division where guys are at least 6”5 and 240 , I think if he was black fans would be who’s Dat bc his one main attraction was Italian white American .
            Most of today's heavyweights are not all that athletic. They are usually 30 to 40 pounds overweight and can only manage throwing less than 40 punches a round without becoming exhausted. There are a few exceptions but Fury and Wilder both averaged a bit over 30 punches a round in their fight and AJ and Ruiz averaged less than 30 punches a round in their last fight. Marciano threw close to 100 hard punches a round all fight. Wilder, who might be today's best heavyweight weighed 209 for Fury which is 31 pounds shy of 240 and he is the hardest puncher. With speed and proper punching a smaller heavyweight can hit as hard or harder than the giants. Dempsey weighed 188 in his prime. Louis weighed 200 pounds. Foreman weighed 212 pounds when he won the title. All of them were terrific punchers who KOed giants.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Originally posted by rudy
              He was just a great white hope, who does what many fighters doing now fighting old champs. He never fought a top ten fighter who was in his prime
              Who were these prime top 10 contenders that he should have fought but did not fight? Can you name any of them? I doubt you can.

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