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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #31
    I’m getting literal?

    No, you’ve told me that boxrec rankings matter more than anything else.

    It doesn’t matter than Andrade is an undefeated champion who’s ranked above Eubank by ring magazine and TBRB, he’s ranked higher by boxrec.

    You then defended boxrec ranking an undefeated fighter who beat Eubank 60 spots lower than Eubank on the p4p rankings.

    So you must believe Crawford is the best welterweight in the world because that’s what boxrec ranks him. You must believe Joshua is the best heavyweight in the world because it’s what boxrec ranks him. You must believe GGG is number 3 p4p because that’s what boxrec ranks him.

    Your own words “numbers don’t lie.”

    You can’t pick and choose. You either believe boxrec is the holy grail or it isn’t.

    If it is, Joshua is the best heavyweight, Crawford is the best welterweight and GGG is top 3 p4p. Then you can have your argument that Eubank is better than Andrade.

    But if boxrec is flawed and you don’t agree with them on Crawford, Joshua and GGG, then maybe Eubank actually isn’t better than Andrade.

    Pick which one you believe. Thanks!

    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    lol...youre getting all literal because youre mad....lol...its funny...

    you asked for an answer and i gave it to you...saunders did nothing last year....and he beat eubank 5 years ago.....thats why hes lower......

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #32
      Originally posted by siablo14
      Sig bet?........
      What’s the bet?

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      • Curt Henning
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        #33
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        I’m getting literal?

        No, you’ve told me that boxrec rankings matter more than anything else.

        It doesn’t matter than Andrade is an undefeated champion who’s ranked above Eubank by ring magazine and TBRB, he’s ranked higher by boxrec.

        You then defended boxrec ranking an undefeated fighter who beat Eubank 60 spots lower than Eubank on the p4p rankings.

        So you must believe Crawford is the best welterweight in the world because that’s what boxrec ranks him. You must believe Joshua is the best heavyweight in the world because it’s what boxrec ranks him. You must believe GGG is number 3 p4p because that’s what boxrec ranks him.

        Your own words “numbers don’t lie.”

        You can’t pick and choose. You either believe boxrec is the holy grail or it isn’t.

        If it is, Joshua is the best heavyweight, Crawford is the best welterweight and GGG is top 3 p4p. Then you can have your argument that Eubank is better than Andrade.

        But if boxrec is flawed and you don’t agree with them on Crawford, Joshua and GGG, then maybe Eubank actually isn’t better than Andrade.

        Pick which one you believe. Thanks!
        lol...dude your heated and getting literal when youre faced with reality....

        being an unbeaten champion doesnt mean anything.....andrades resume is crap....its garbage....you know this...i know it....everyone does...its so bad they have him at 7th......your gonna tell me today being an unbeaten champion means something but bash tank davis for his resume and lack of fights in another thread....."unbeaten champion"...what a bunch of BS...nobody cares....

        andrades resume is crap...thats why hes low.....if you think the rest of their ratings fall in line with most of reality than its safe to assume theyve called eubank and andrade correctly here too

        andrades comp has been awful.....i know its tough to swallow but thats why nobody cares and he cant land a fight on his own banner....and why youtubers are trumping him on his own network...lol

        its really funny to watch you get all upset over the reality of this situation.....get better comp and beat them and maybe people will notice and rate you....

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          #34
          Oh so the argument isn’t about boxrec ranking, it’s about resume.

          That’s fine. Andrade is trying to strengthen his resume by fighting a unification bout against Jermall Charlo. He had his promoter offer Charlo a career high payday to make the fight happen.

          Charlo ran away with his tail between his legs. Charlo also doesn’t have a good resume at all, which is why he’s ranked 4th at middleweight and below Chris Eubank despite being an undefeated middleweight champion.

          FWIW, I don’t trash Gervonta Davis for being an undefeated champion. I trash him for running away from a career high payday to fight Tevin Farmer, which is the same reason I trash Charlo.

          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          lol...dude your heated and getting literal when youre faced with reality....

          being an unbeaten champion doesnt mean anything.....andrades resume is crap....its garbage....you know this...i know it....everyone does...its so bad they have him at 7th......your gonna tell me today being an unbeaten champion means something but bash tank davis for his resume and lack of fights in another thread....."unbeaten champion"...what a bunch of BS...nobody cares....

          andrades resume is crap...thats why hes low.....if you think the rest of their ratings fall in line with most of reality than its safe to assume theyve called eubank and andrade correctly here too

          andrades comp has been awful.....i know its tough to swallow but thats why nobody cares and he cant land a fight on his own banner....and why youtubers are trumping him on his own network...lol

          its really funny to watch you get all upset over the reality of this situation.....get better comp and beat them and maybe people will notice and rate you....

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            #35
            Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
            What’s the bet?
            Charlo over Eubank.

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            • Curt Henning
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              #36
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              Oh so the argument isn’t about boxrec ranking, it’s about resume.

              That’s fine. Andrade is trying to strengthen his resume by fighting a unification bout against Jermall Charlo. He had his promoter offer Charlo a career high payday to make the fight happen.

              Charlo ran away with his tail between his legs. Charlo also doesn’t have a good resume at all, which is why he’s ranked 4th at middleweight and below Chris Eubank despite being an undefeated middleweight champion.

              FWIW, I don’t trash Gervonta Davis for being an undefeated champion. I trash him for running away from a career high payday to fight Tevin Farmer, which is the same reason I trash Charlo.
              dude..i know we disagree on alot...but i actually thought you were smarter than this....

              the argument is that the boxrec system takes resume into account.....

              and charlos resume isnt good either...yet they still have him above andrade...thats how bad andrades is....

              andrade is the same guy that pulled out of a fight with jermell years ago only weeks before it..and his father lied about the money they were getting(his own promoter said paul lied about the number)....

              you guys can ramble on about farmer and charlo turning down "career high paydays"....it really just shows how out of touch with reality you are.....pbc foundational pieces arent going over to another network to fight guys like andrade and farmer.....farmer and andrade are next to nobody.....it just shows how out of touch with the business you are.....

              if someone offered you a job that nearly double your salary would you take it no questions asked? or would maybe ask some questions? like how many hours do i have to work a day? or a week? do i have my weekends free? do others with the same job like it and have a good quality of life? how far is it from my home and will i be losing 2 hours a day in travel?

              i work for a DoD contractor...my company is huge....i watch stuff like this go down all of the time...i have friends who take "promotions" there....they see a number and they jump at it....some people value the money....and most of them become miserable because they basically become a slave to the company...working weekends all the time....working 12 hour days....tons of stress and pressure because you need to depend on people who have job security and you could be removed in an instant....

              guys like davis and charlo aint moving over to fight guys like farmer and andrade...andrade and farmer are getting outshined by youtubers...nobody knows them...nobody really watches them.....

              i know its hard to swallow that an unbiased computer system has eubank several spots ahead of your "unbeaten champion".....but it does....because eubank has been in with good fighters(even if he didnt win them all)....beating alantez fox doesnt move needles....

              and ive known boo boo for years...we are from a tiny state and we always pull for the athletes that come out of here....but hes an utter disapointment...his career has been....andrade is the guy that cant even get a good fight on his own network

              without deflecting please answer this question.....if spence had no brook, mikey and porter on his resume....and was fighting sebastian formella next and was offering jesse vargas 7 mil to come fight him on fox wouldnt you think it to be a bit strange? i know i would....and thats basically whats going on over at DAZN

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                #37
                I would think it’s because Spence needs opponents and is looking for opponents. I would applaud him and his promoters for trying to make a fight happen for him. I would expect Jessie Vargas to take the fight.

                Let me ask you: If you believe everything you said, why should anyone expect Crawford to fight Porter?

                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                dude..i know we disagree on alot...but i actually thought you were smarter than this....

                the argument is that the boxrec system takes resume into account.....

                and charlos resume isnt good either...yet they still have him above andrade...thats how bad andrades is....

                andrade is the same guy that pulled out of a fight with jermell years ago only weeks before it..and his father lied about the money they were getting(his own promoter said paul lied about the number)....

                you guys can ramble on about farmer and charlo turning down "career high paydays"....it really just shows how out of touch with reality you are.....pbc foundational pieces arent going over to another network to fight guys like andrade and farmer.....farmer and andrade are next to nobody.....it just shows how out of touch with the business you are.....

                if someone offered you a job that nearly double your salary would you take it no questions asked? or would maybe ask some questions? like how many hours do i have to work a day? or a week? do i have my weekends free? do others with the same job like it and have a good quality of life? how far is it from my home and will i be losing 2 hours a day in travel?

                i work for a DoD contractor...my company is huge....i watch stuff like this go down all of the time...i have friends who take "promotions" there....they see a number and they jump at it....some people value the money....and most of them become miserable because they basically become a slave to the company...working weekends all the time....working 12 hour days....tons of stress and pressure because you need to depend on people who have job security and you could be removed in an instant....

                guys like davis and charlo aint moving over to fight guys like farmer and andrade...andrade and farmer are getting outshined by youtubers...nobody knows them...nobody really watches them.....

                i know its hard to swallow that an unbiased computer system has eubank several spots ahead of your "unbeaten champion".....but it does....because eubank has been in with good fighters(even if he didnt win them all)....beating alantez fox doesnt move needles....

                and ive known boo boo for years...we are from a tiny state and we always pull for the athletes that come out of here....but hes an utter disapointment...his career has been....andrade is the guy that cant even get a good fight on his own network

                without deflecting please answer this question.....if spence had no brook, mikey and porter on his resume....and was fighting sebastian formella next and was offering jesse vargas 7 mil to come fight him on fox wouldnt you think it to be a bit strange? i know i would....and thats basically whats going on over at DAZN

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                  #38
                  Charlo will easily beat Eubank Jr.

                  I'd rather see Charlo vs Andrade. Fans of businessmen and fighters' wallets should want to see that one too, since Charlo would be getting a career high payday.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    I would think it’s because Spence needs opponents and is looking for opponents. I would applaud him and his promoters for trying to make a fight happen for him. I would expect Jessie Vargas to take the fight.

                    Let me ask you: If you believe everything you said, why should anyone expect Crawford to fight Porter?
                    yeah but spence shouldnt need opponents...he has pac, thurman, danny etc fighting on the same network...which is the whole point...and you know that too but youre trying to skirt around that

                    people should expect crawford to fight porter because crawford has been publically asking the pbc to consider him...he even had bradly on tv whining for him....so here you go....cept now he doesnt seem to want to fight the guy thats available to him.....porter is a great opponent....hes been in the ring with the top names in the division and some of the top names in the sport......hes been on ppv....people know him.....nobody knows andrade....his best opponent was sulecki....lol...its not even comparible...not even close

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                    • ShaneMosleySr
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                      #40
                      Spence doesn’t need opponents, I understand that.

                      Crawford has been asking for Spence and Pacquiao, not Porter. So I’m not sure why he would take the risk to fight Porter.

                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      yeah but spence shouldnt need opponents...he has pac, thurman, danny etc fighting on the same network...which is the whole point...and you know that too but youre trying to skirt around that

                      people should expect crawford to fight porter because crawford has been publically asking the pbc to consider him...he even had bradly on tv whining for him....so here you go....cept now he doesnt seem to want to fight the guy thats available to him.....porter is a great opponent....hes been in the ring with the top names in the division and some of the top names in the sport......hes been on ppv....people know him.....nobody knows andrade....his best opponent was sulecki....lol...its not even comparible...not even close

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