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  • amagnin
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    #111
    Originally posted by Cletus Funk
    You sound like you've only seen 3 Hatton fights, and there's nothing factual about Castillo having quicker hands or cutting off the ring better.

    Hatton on top form is lightning quick across the ring and some of his combinations are astonishing. He didn't get the following he has by bulling in head first and clinching. He's usually on his toes, bouncing in and out of range, but he was flat footed and lethargic in his last 2 fights.
    I acutally have seen Hatton fight at least 8 times (not all live of course but I live in the US) and my conception of him is a guy that bullies his opponents. I know he has good boxing skills and he used them somewhat against Maussa, but his arms are short and he can't outbox Floyd. So he is forced to fight like he did against Koz which was a bullying style in which he really didn't throw many combinations. No he doesn't come in face first, but his hands aren't always in the right place and his very suceptible to being countered. This is the kind of fight Floyd welcomes.

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    • Cletus Funk
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      #112
      Originally posted by deliveryman
      First of all, being fast on your feet and cutting off the ring are two COMPLETELY different skills.

      There's TONS of fighters who might have fast feet but can't cut off the ring worth ****. Look at Corrales, all he does is follow people around.

      There's nothing factual about Castillo having faster hands? Huh?? Are you blind??!?!?
      Are you ****ing ******?!?!?!?

      You don't spend practically every minute of every round of 38 fights with your opponent trapped against the ropes if you can't cut-off the ring.

      Come back to me on the handspeed when you can show me Castillo throwing a triple left hook / straight right combo in less than a second.

      Castillo's one of my favourite active fighters but speed isn't one of his strengths. He's just very sound in everything he does.
      Last edited by Cletus Funk; 08-03-2006, 04:32 PM.

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      • amagnin
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        #113
        Originally posted by Cletus Funk
        Are you ****ing ******?!?!?!?

        You don't spend practically every minute of every round of 38 fights with your opponent trapped against the ropes if you can't cut-off the ring.

        Come back to me on the handspeed when you can show me Castillo throwing a triple left hook / straight right combo in less than a second.

        Castillo's one of my favourite active fighters but speed isn't one of his strengths. He's just very sound in everything he does.
        Speed isn't exactly Hatton's thing either.

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          #114
          Originally posted by bdevils
          don't you think every other pressure fighter that fought floyd thought the same way? didn't seem to pay off for them.
          no every other pressure fighter fights exactly like hatton but yes i know were your coming from

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          • Cletus Funk
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            #115
            Originally posted by amagnin
            Speed isn't exactly Hatton's thing either.
            You're clearly speaking from a position of ignorance, you need to watch some more of his fights. His overall quickness is a massive part of what's made him so effective in most of his fights.

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            • amagnin
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              #116
              Originally posted by Cletus Funk
              You're clearly speaking from a position of ignorance, you need to watch some more of his fights. His overall quickness is a massive part of what's made him so effective in most of his fights.
              Explain to me how he was quick against a skilled technical fighter like against Koz. Hatton was definitely winning but it wasn't with speed. I have watched Hatton a lot and I see him put punches together quickly at times, but that isn't his strength. He relies on being the bigger/stronger man, and that is part of the reason he struggled against Collazo.

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              • amagnin
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                #117
                And if you are referring to one of the stiffs he faced early in his career, well then he should have been faster than them because they weren't quality opponents.

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                • Cletus Funk
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by amagnin
                  Explain to me how he was quick against a skilled technical fighter like against Koz. Hatton was definitely winning but it wasn't with speed. I have watched Hatton a lot and I see him put punches together quickly at times, but that isn't his strength. He relies on being the bigger/stronger man, and that is part of the reason he struggled against Collazo.
                  Like I said, see some pre-Tszyu fights. He adopted that tactic for the Tszyu fight and it seems to have stuck. He never fought like that before.

                  Against Collazo he didn't carry the extra weight very well. He was flat footed and slow compared to how I'm used to seeing him.

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                    #119
                    I think Mayweather will win with KO in the late round.

                    He is fast and one of a kind boxer and Hatton is an solid B-level slugger.

                    Boxer > Slugger

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by amagnin
                      And if you are referring to one of the stiffs he faced early in his career, well then he should have been faster than them because they weren't quality opponents.
                      He was beating the same guys as the 2 top guys in the division, only more impressively.

                      He wasn't quick in these fights relatively, he was quick full stop. Are you going to apply that logic to every fighter then?

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