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  • Curt Henning
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    #51
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
    Lol you aren't very bright if you didn't see the humour in Hearn's statement.

    Not to mention Barry Hearn doesn't even deal with the boxing anymore... Some guy on here kept saying. "I saw Barry Hearn say he advised AJ to avoid Wilder". Well so what? Barry Hearn does darts and snooker and he has no business relationship with AJ. It's like AJ's mum or AJ's friend advising him to avoid Wilder.
    hahahah...yeah ok man...barry hearn advised aj to avoid wilder for a least two years in august 2018....its documented...he has also met with finkel(go check the finkel/eddie war...where eddie says "so you had a good chin wag with my dad the other day)"......

    and yeah eddie confirmed several times the 50 mil was legit and that they were considering the fight....he even was quoted as saying "has about a 70 percent chance of happening"

    youre about the only lunatic still running around with the "50 mil wasnt real" bit

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    • Roberto Vasquez
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      #52
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      hahahah...yeah ok man...barry hearn advised aj to avoid wilder for a least two years in august 2018....its documented...he has also met with finkel(go check the finkel/eddie war...where eddie says "so you had a good chin wag with my dad the other day)"......

      and yeah eddie confirmed several times the 50 mil was legit and that they were considering the fight....he even was quoted as saying "has about a 70 percent chance of happening"

      youre about the only lunatic still running around with the "50 mil wasnt real" bit
      Yes but so what if Barry Hearn did? Barry HEarn is just like a friend of AJ if anything. If I was Aj's promoter I WOULD be advising him to avoid Wilder until it was a huge fight. Because its' a high risk fight. And promoters are about making money.

      I'm 80% sure from memory that Eddie Hearn said "Wilder sent a 50 million offer by email. We asked for proof of funds and they were unable to show them" Not to mention it made no sense for Wilder to offer 50 million for that fight at that time.

      I'm 90% sure that AJ said in his Breakfast Club interview said the same thing.

      The fact is AJ wanted the fight and there are videos where Wilder confirms "AJ and his team are begging for the fight" and "be patient I'll fight AJ in 2020" This was before the 1st Ruiz fight. This is from Wilder himself. There is no way around that.

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      • Fire4231
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        #53
        Originally posted by Kezzer
        Fire S: I would invite to look at back and read your own response. You are so into your own theory of Hearn-bots you don’t even read the responses.

        A few things.

        Fury I do rate higher than Pulev, go read the actual response I put rather than assume I said otherwise.

        A: Nope... read my statement with clear mind sir bot. The point is of course you believe Fury is better. No one in their right mind would say Pulev was better than Fury.

        You seem to get it when comparing the two fighters, but when comparing Wilder and AJ’s opponent schedule, you shift to say Joshua is fighting tougher competition? WTF? Doesn’t Add Up?


        Takam I would rate higher than Brezeale.

        A: Cracky statement botman. Outside of giving AJ Hell towards the end of the fight what has Takam accomplished?

        He lost to every step up guy. AJ, Parker, Povetkin, even a ship worn Chisora beat him. Chisora who is not what he used to be stopped both Takam and Parker.

        Breazeale has only lost to top competition Wilder and Joshua. When many thought Uganoh would be that dude he stopped him undefeated.

        Boxing Rec even ranks him higher than Takam. You just said they were the objective bible of the sport?

        Whyte who you celebrate ducked Breazeale and they both performed equally well against AJ who is their top comp.


        S: Whyte I would rate high at this moment given he has one of the best resumes of the top heavyweights. For example if you compare him to Ortiz there really is no question who has the better wins, he is far and above.

        A: GTFOH who are those great wins? Soon as you put Chisora on your win list the brits go crazy. He has a cleverly crafted boxing rec that has allowed him to duck the fighters that would more than likely put losses on his boxing rec... (Ortiz and Breazeale). You keep pretending Fury beat Wilder but you will not acknowledge Rivas beat Chisora and he was caught doping. Very next fight Whyte look like trash against Wach who had a loss against Spilka who you discount on Wilders resume... can we have some consistency please.


        Suggesting he didn’t knockout x or y falls on its feet for you if you take into consideration your big argument is fury is the 2nd best heavyweight - don’t forget fury himself has struggled to take out people inside the distance.

        A:This is dumb Fury for the most part has risen to the occasion. You are making up positions that I haven’t taken. I said Wilder has been more dominant. The way he has been dominant is through a perfect KO record. Tyson has been dominant in winning rounds. So keep that BS about Tyson not being number two because he isn’t KO’ing folks. Stop trying to interpret things if you can’t get the context correct.

        S:In fact if you like go to wilders only other name, Ortiz, and check who he has failed to KO too. Reality is that sometimes KO’s don’t happen and that may not always be the best reflection.

        A: What does that have to do with what I am talking about. It’s not just going the distance. Joshua has been in wars with very pedestrian fighters recently. He look like a monster when you jump into The Who phone booth but today. E was beaten down by an above average fighter and his handlers have lost faith in how they match him. Sorry bro he is not on the level he used to be. Bottom line botman.


        Fury beat (or officially drew) with Wilder so until that loss is avenged - which could obviously be next month, don’t go claiming he should be included because it doesn’t add value.

        A: GTFOH tired of this BS Narrative. What people don’t want to admit is some if those early rounds were going Wilder’s way. With the Knockdowns the draw is very feasible. What is not usual is a fighter going completely to sleep and the ref not waiving things off. The whole point of stopping the fight in a violent flurry is to prevent a terrible concussion. So Tyson is laying completely concussed and the Ref decides he needs an encouraging slow count. Stop telling me how Fury deserves the first fight. It’s a draw and we will see when part two happens who the top guy in the division is.


        Joshua vs Takam - why do you even consider that any stoppage (which could have been argued early) changed the result. Joshua had literally won every round up to that point and never been looking in danger, it wasn’t exactly an Ortiz/wilder style fight where a punch (or ref decision) swung the decision into opposite direction.
        A: Wasn’t in Danger? Another cracky statement. Yes Joshua had control early. But Takam was tearing up AJ later in that fight. The stoppage was at a point where Takam had control, AJ seemed unstable and Takam was fine despite the flurry. Why would any objective viewer be okay with the powers that be stopping the fight as soon as the competition had advantage? Another dumb @ss biased comment bot.

        Bro, I don’t know how they brainwash you guys over in England but boy do they do a thorough job. You guys sound so reasonable on every other topic but when you get on your Nationalistic Defense Plan it’s like you all become zombie’s.

        Good day bot, can’t get upset because at least you are trying to reason things out.

        Some of these other bots can’t do anything but Low brow insult because they haven’t even seen the ****ing fights.
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        Last edited by Fire4231; 01-13-2020, 06:27 PM.

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        • Fire4231
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          #54
          Originally posted by Slicc
          "Ha... WTF? Wilder is fighting number #2 Redreamer. How do you duck #4 by fighting an even better #2." I guess this wasn't you, you fucking muppet. AJ wasn't #4 when Wilder said he wouldn't take 50%.


          AJ won't be able to fight for undisputed this year if he has to deal with Pulev and Usyk, but I guess the IBF and WBO are working in Hearn's favor . Usyk is arguably the most skilled active heavyweight, but let's downplay that to hate on AJ .


          Point out one time when I said AJ deserved to be #1 after losing to Ruiz. I just disagreed with you thinking AJ should be #7 even after avenging his one loss.


          I only included Martin because I also included Stiverne. I consider them both paper champions, but they were still champions nonetheless. AJ wouldn't have 3 belts if he didn't beat Martin, and Wilder wouldn't have any belts if he didn't beat Stiverne. Also, even if I didn't count them, that would leave Wilder with one notable win, and AJ with 5.


          But, I never denied AJ having lost, in the first place.


          I've seen LDBC morons/PBC shills claiming that DAZN is failing, and got into it with one of them a while back. Canelo's only fought 3x for DAZN, and his numbers were good against Jacobs. They were bad against Fielding, but Fielding's a bum. I don't know what they were for Kovalev, but Kovalev's not exactly a household name, either. Increasing the price of the monthly sub was only Hearn's idea, so I guess he just felt greedy. Lol at boxing "fans" praying for DAZN's downfall.
          Botman give me the original context or I am not answering.

          How are you going to make an accusation. I respond and then cut out the original accusation with your response.

          Bad enough I am entertaining all five of your dumb @sses at once but the thread will be based on fact not illusion.

          Get to work Botboy.

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          • Fire4231
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            #55
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            You failed to mention what I was lying about,we all know you are the bot ,the problem here is you guys can’t pay anyone with a high IQ so we in turn have to respond to idiots like you .

            A: Yeah botski, I should be the bot because you guys have me looking like the terminator on here. The irony is this. If anyone should be getting paid in this discussion it is me. But whatever Bot think what you want. It’s just a case of the amateurs being a lot more talented than the professional tomato cans. Lol...Who would dare let me represent a company calling you **** Boys. And I actually have a life so I am not on here all day.

            You are the rocks I kick ,it’s painfully obvious that you actually resorted to challenges to fight,well I’m near you so ?

            A: Bro... WTF are you talking about. Did I literally drive your dumb @ss insane on here. Think you popped a gasket bot? This is why Vespa’s need to stay in the damn bike lane.

            Lol...They can’t handle the truth of their own lack of mental horse power. That accent has been making you feel smart for way too long. Stay closed to Deez nutz **** boy.
            .

            Besides that you simpleton you don’t actually provide any challenges mentally or physically ,I could prove that if you really want to step your game up ? I love hurting re,tards who deserve it and I’ll post that video of you getting butchered right on this very forum with a signed contract Mr tough guy ? Lol
            A: Sigh... Now the Vespa wants to fight. Bro don’t throw your whole life away.

            I can tell the way you talk “Simpleton,” you are quite fit for the thrashing. Do your self a favor, go pick a fight with a girl on your block. After she whoops that @ss you will know to stop talking crazy to people online.

            Hearn pays you to be a hype man not get your @ss whooped. I tell you that fight money should be much better.

            Another Vespa brought back to reality. I will take this as a tap out from Juggledeeznutz666!!!

            You guys really just need to watch the ****ing fights.

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            • Boxingraya
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              #56
              I don't see Usyk being a real threat to any of the top guys right now. I guess he has the talent to surprise me but the odds are against him.

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              • Kezzer
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                #57
                Originally posted by Boxingraya
                I don't see Usyk being a real threat to any of the top guys right now. I guess he has the talent to surprise me but the odds are against him.
                I think he’s a good fighter. I agree that we haven’t seen him against top heavyweights yet but there are some pundits who think he will get to the top. Him and Fury in theory have similar styles for example but I’m sure why fight would be a really hard one to watch, but against Joshua or wilder it would be intriguing for sure.

                At this moment in time outside the top3 (depending who you have fought before and when) fighting Whyte or Usyk are probably the best options for credibility and challenge.

                There is the likes of Parker, Povetkin, Ortiz etc too of course but generally speaking I don’t think many give them any chance at all. Having said that I still wouldn’t mind seeing Parker vs wilder because his boxing style makes me interested to see if wilder could catch him at all.

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                • juggernaut666
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Fire4231
                  A: Sigh... Now the Vespa wants to fight. Bro don’t throw your whole life away.

                  I can tell the way you talk “Simpleton,” you are quite fit for the thrashing. Do your self a favor, go pick a fight with a girl on your block. After she whoops that @ss you will know to stop talking crazy to people online.

                  Hearn pays you to be a hype man not get your @ss whooped. I tell you that fight money should be much better.

                  Another Vespa brought back to reality. I will take this as a tap out from Juggledeeznutz666!!!

                  You guys really just need to watch the ****ing fights.
                  No I’m picking a fight with you so you don’t need to make shyte up ?

                  You are the girl and like I said I would knock the teeth out of your mouth but you went silent on that ,I can make that happen but you don’t realize it YET ?

                  It doesn’t matter how fit I am it wouldn’t stop my shot going through your face and things falling out,let me know tough guy ? Lol

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                  • Thraxox
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Fire4231
                    [B]@Juggledeeznutz666
                    Fire Challenge: I will answer your questions but then you have to answer mine directly with out changing topic. If you can’t do this honestly we know you are a lying Hearn bot.



                    Yes bot named Juggledeeznutz666 we all know you can kick rocks. You have my permission to kick molten lava all the way to Hell.
                    calling Parker a top 7 heavyweight when he was a champion, it just shows you how much you don't know **** about boxing.

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                    • Fire4231
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      calling Parker a top 7 heavyweight when he was a champion, it just shows you how much you don't know **** about boxing.
                      Lol...You are right Thraxox. AJ’s recent boxing record is worst than we all thought.

                      That was one of his best wins. Thanks for setting me straight. WTF?

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