Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Expects To Face Anthony Joshua in 2020

[Fire4231]

Yet again alot of words but nothing from you. 1 slight mention of Boxing when you mentioned Joshua (a name Americans cant stop talking about) but other than that we have another 3 or 4 paragraphs from you that contains jack sheet Boxing material.

You may as well not be here.

Yep not for you bot. We can dive into your complete history on this site and find not one thing about boxing. Imagine that? Just the same Hearn sound bytes for AJ repeated.

I speak boxing when I am talking to someone who knows the language. If not it’s like speaking German to a guy who knows pig Latin. A waist of ****ing time.

[Fire4231]

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Ha... WTF? Wilder is fighting number #2 Redreamer. How do you duck #4 by fighting an even better #2. It’s like saying Redreamer owns a Vespa because a Ducatti wasn’t fast enough for him. Doesn’t make sense bot? So why would anyone at Matchroom be telling lies? Oh that’s right it is just what you guys do.

AJ was #1 when Wilder received those DAZN offers. You're being very disingenuous. A: Dr. Who get back to the present and then try to find the context you missed first time out. No one is spending time debating about offers. Accept your new position AJ got knocked the **** out. That’s today’s reality Hearn **** bot.

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Further more AJ is fighting a guy not even in the top 10!!! The only sanctioning body putting Pulev in their top 10 is the very much in bed with Hearn IBF. That shows how fake these BS mandatories are.
AJ has to fight Pulev to keep his IBF strap. Besides, how many top 10 opponents did Wilder face before Ortiz? I can't imagine there'd be many.
You can write so you obviously you can read bot. Stop trying to eliminate the original context. It is above I am not repeating myself for you.
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There are no talking points for this Redreamer. AJ should be ranked down to #7 for ducking top fighters and waisting valuable belt time with this specially designed AJ feeder pool of sure wins.
How much does Al Haymon pay you to shill like that? He's the unified champion and has the best resume in the division, but only deserves to be ranked #7? Wilder dodged life-changing money, but AJ's ducking? Lol...Best Resume? Best Resume? Doesn’t a resume get worst when you get fired? Why...because he fought Klitschko? What has he done for legacy lately? Reality check...answer these questions. Did AJ get knocked out by the #8 Heavy weight in Ruiz? Is he fighting a top 10 fighter in is next fight with Pulev? If these things are true why would we rank AJ #1? Please give me that level of ******ity that seems to be a trademark of The UK boxing scene?

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No wonder DAZN is struggling as 99% of their fights aren’t compelling. And when they are compelling it was clearly by accident!!! Dazn is not participating in the sport of boxing, they are simply a monthly showcase for very specific fighters and their delusion prone fans.
This is MK Ultra level brainwashing. DAZN isn't participating in the sport of boxing? They offered Wilder gigantic money to face Joshua and weren't even considered. They offered Jermall a career payday to face Andrade, and I haven't heard him address it yet. They're invested in young talent like Stevenson and Haney. They're also providing their fights for only $20 a month, while Fox charged a $75 PPV to watch Wilder knock Ortiz out again lol. I don't get what all these PBC shills have against DAZN. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda Dazn fights aren’t compelling. That why the company is going under. No one wants to see Canelo fighting Rocky Fieldings for a rumored increase of $50 a month. Get better fights and maybe someone will want to watch. What else you got bot?

[juggernaut666]

Yep not for you bot. We can dive into your complete history on this site and find not one thing about boxing. Imagine that? Just the same Hearn sound bytes for AJ repeated.

I speak boxing when I am talking to someone who knows the language. If not it’s like speaking German to a guy who knows pig Latin. A waist of ****ing time.

QUOTE :" What wilder has done is fight the very BEST ,something AJ clearly isnt doing "


THREAD :Joshua Has Unified in 20 fights wilder Has Not In 40 :

That is your quote above correct on that thread right ?

And you are actually telling anyone they are bots and wasting someone's time ?


That simple statement just on its own would sum you up and how far the intelligence goes and its about the distance i'm able to kick a small pebble down a dirt road. lol

[Skinny kinny]

Wilder said prior to the Breazeale fight the fans would have to wait and if he got 50% and everything he wanted still wouldn’t fight AJ because he has other plans ,this was before his DAZN meeting with Finkel.

He fooled you guys and you fell for it ,he never had any intentions of fighting AJ no matter what and made it look like he was being given a raw deal and the sheep followed him. Ha

Nobody is ducking Aj or Dillian. They are big money fights against fighters who have shown a decent level of vulnerability. Everybody wants those fights. Eddie uses the type of deal you get to pick and choose who actually gets to fight them. he is getting near a big enough stable to keep pretty much all non match room affiliated fighters out.

[Fire4231]

@Juggledeeznutz666
Fire Challenge: I will answer your questions but then you have to answer mine directly with out changing topic. If you can’t do this honestly we know you are a lying Hearn bot.

QUOTE :" What wilder has done is fight the very BEST ,something AJ clearly isnt doing“

Q:That is your quote above correct on that thread right ?

A: Yes a partial quote but I will let your feeble attempt at manipulation slide... let’s move on.


THREAD :Joshua Has Unified in 20 fights wilder Has Not In 40 A:Yes this was the thread and A Hearn quote let’s continue...

Q: And you are actually telling anyone they are bots and wasting someone's time ?

Lol... Yes because its true. Guess what you are about to prove it.

Juggledeeznutz666 Statement: That simple statement just on its own would sum you up and how far the intelligence goes...

Okay Juggledeeznutz666 - let’s inspect the integrity of your conclusion...

Wilder’s last five fights...
- Luis Ortiz /KO #4 Heavyweight
- Tyson Fury/ Draw with Top 3 Heavyweight
- Dominic Breazeale/ KO 1st round win over Top 8 HW
- Luis Ortiz/ KO of Top 5 HW
- Bermane Stiverne/ TKO of Top 15 Heavyweight

Joshua’s Last five fights...
- Andy Ruiz/ Win went the distance in. track shoes. UD
- Andy Ruiz/ TKO Loss. AJ Was Knocked out against #8 ranked HW
- Alexander Povetkin/ TKO win over Top 10 fighter
- Joseph Parker/ UD win over top 7 Heavyweight
- Carlos Takam/ TKO win over Top 20 fighter. Tough fight with a very controversial and debatable stoppage

Good news its time to start the fire challenge. Remember you must answer all my questions honestly or we will know you are indeed a lying bot for hire Mr. Juggledeeznutz666...

Q: Who has fought the better competition in their last 5 fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Who received the best outcomes in their last five fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Who has the most knockout wins in their last five fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Which fighter has a knock out loss in their past 5 fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Of their next fight competition... Who is the better fighter? Kubrat Pulev or Tyson Fury?

Closing Statement: i'm able to kick a small pebble down a dirt road. lol

Yes bot named Juggledeeznutz666 we all know you can kick rocks. You have my permission to kick molten lava all the way to Hell.

[teamindividual]

QUOTE :" What wilder has done is fight the very BEST ,something AJ clearly isnt doing "


THREAD :Joshua Has Unified in 20 fights wilder Has Not In 40 :

That is your quote above correct on that thread right ?

And you are actually telling anyone they are bots and wasting someone's time ?


That simple statement just on its own would sum you up and how far the intelligence goes and its about the distance i'm able to kick a small pebble down a dirt road. lol

Fire is wiping the floor with these match room Clowns like freeze, redeemer, juggernaut lmao

[just the facts]

Any fighter that continues to have the mic taking off him by Finkel who basically tells Wilder to hush up and take over interviews where it first started in 2015 when he grabbed the mic telling fans Wilder will not fight Klitschko because he’s a baby is not his own boss.

Haymon also has final say on his contract of who he fights so any fight can be shot down by him ,when Wilder says he has the final say on who he fights he is just lying as usual . Haymon has binding contracts that ties him to his fighters ,he is the master they are the ****** .

Again, what's with your weird negative obsession with Wilder? Racism? Anti American agenda? What?

[Kezzer]

Q: Who has fought the better competition in their last 5 fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Who received the best outcomes in their last five fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Who has the most knockout wins in their last five fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Which fighter has a knock out loss in their past 5 fights? AJ or Wilder

Q: Of their next fight competition... Who is the better fighter? Kubrat Pulev or Tyson Fury?

In my opinion:

Last five fights Joshua fought tougher opposition. I could argue all five were top15 minimum whereas Wilder fought some real bums such as Stiverne. This “last five” may change in the course of this year based on who we expect each to fight. If you go beyond five then clearly it’s not even a contest because prior to two years ago wilder hadn’t taken on anyone of note.

Best “outcomes” is debatable, you would argue wilder but you could easily argue both lost a fight too. Wilder certainly got a couple more clinical wins, but the real outcome is what is achieved at the end. Joshua holds four belts and wilder still holds one.

Most knockout wins recently is wilder and his % now surpasses AJ however you could argue Joshua has kicked out tougher opposition in his career , it’s arguable that Klitschko , fury and Whyte are the top heavyweights they have fought between them.

I would rate fury higher than Pulev. Pulev is of course a mandatory and not yet certain to be fighting in front of usyk - also a mandatory.

Personally - I don’t really understand why your trying to turn resume statistics to make wilder look stronger. If you want to argue wilder is better then using resume doesn’t go in your favour given Joshua has a far more impressive record which is backed up by BoxRec which is the best non-bias single calculator for taking into account levels of opponent

[Roberto Vasquez]

Usyk has win over Hunter but he looks better and how ,Hunter should have lost that Povetkin fight and hes really sloppy at times even if hes a top prospect or top ten guy depending where you rank him ?

Uysk has win over Hunter at Crusierweight not HW. Let's be honest Povetkin is actually a good fighter. Witherspoon is not and literally had 3 days notice. Hunter looked way better to me. He went toe to toe with Povetkin.No one expected that.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I remember when AJ got offered 50million and Hearn couldn't understand where the money would come from and said ' they will try whore him out in Saudia' the hypocrite went and did that exact same thing against Ruiz apparently for over 70 million for the one fight so looking at it like that Wilder was getting a raw deal 'getting whored out' by Hearn in Arabia.

The facts are Hearn asked for proof of funds and Wilder and his promoter failed to provide it. It's funny how people still believe that story. That was the whole point behind it i guess.

So if Joshua Ruiz gets 70 million (if you say thats true) how much would Joshua/Wilder get in SA? Wilder needs to sign to fight Joshua and to stop fighting Ortiz. It would be funny if he fought Ortiz a third time when Ortiz is 41 this time.