Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Expects To Face Anthony Joshua in 2020

[5000boxing]

I remember when AJ got offered 50million and Hearn couldn't understand where the money would come from and said ' they will try whore him out in Saudia' the hypocrite went and did that exact same thing against Ruiz apparently for over 70 million for the one fight so looking at it like that Wilder was getting a raw deal 'getting whored out' by Hearn in Arabia.

Exactly! It puzzling how Eddie was paying AJ 25million and charging 3 dollars a ticket at Wembley! The Books are definitely cooked! I wonder what he is really making come tax time!

[Fire4231]

You hit the nail on the head. But everyone is going to pretend that thats not what's going on at matchroom.

Aj, parker, whyte all overrated clowns. I like Andrade's skill but he hasn't fought anyone. Jacobs fights scary/gun shy most of the time. Tevin Farmer isn't that good but at least he's about to fight Jo Jo Diaz, so I can't complain about that-50/50 fight there.

Maybe I'm forgetting someone but, the only one I mess with over there is Usyk.

Good stuff Nusky, you analyze boxing. I once believed in AJ but he hasn’t been hungry since the Klitschko fight. Fight enough bums and you pick up bad habits.

Love Usyk just question whether he should be at Heavy weight. He was a top fighter and they forced him up before he was ready.

Andrade is being put on the pay me no mind list? Just dumb...

Farmer is decent but not quite earning a rep as a boogie man. Feels very vulnerable in his division. Let’s be honest he is not dominating the guys he should.

Agree on Jacobs, he is content to eek out victories and he is just not doing enough. The Blue chippers are Canelo and Haney...

But maybe if the match ups were better I could have more faith in their roster. Right now Hearn believes in his fight manipulation more than his roster of talent.

[Fire4231]

You really are a worthless poster. You never bring a thing to the table when you type. It's just casual fan boy BS that you heard some dumb **** on YouTube said.

Lol...No Neutral, you are full blown clown royalty on here. A suspected hired Hearn bot getting paid to post for a shilling. We all know that.

We aren’t waisting time with you. Been murking your dumb @ss with those garbage Hearn sound bytes aka lies.

Now you just show up like an angry little Brit troll pissed at all the yanks. All things on the site are preserved. Your thrashings will live forever.

You get handled daily and by the way you bore us. The nerve...calling boxing aficionados casual and describing yourself perfectly in retaliation.

Stop waisting valuable peoples time. You need a new career bro. We know you just started watching boxing when AJ won the belt. Just pathetic bro. You punk @ss fuel efficient inexpensive 50 mph Vespa!!! Beat it for people think I actually know you.

[DaNeutral.]

Lol...No Neutral, you are full blown clown royalty on here. A suspected hired Hearn bot getting paid to post for a shilling. We all know that.

We aren’t waisting time with you. Been murking your dumb @ss with those garbage Hearn sound bytes aka lies.

Now you just show up like an angry little Brit troll pissed at all the yanks. All things on the site are preserved. Your thrashings will live forever.

You get handled daily and by the way you bore us. The nerve...calling boxing aficionados casual and describing yourself perfectly in retaliation.

Stop waisting valuable peoples time. You need a new career bro. We know you just started watching boxing when AJ won the belt. Just pathetic bro. You punk @ss fuel efficient inexpensive 50 mph Vespa!!! Beat it for people think I actually know you.

Yet again alot of words but nothing from you. 1 slight mention of Boxing when you mentioned Joshua (a name Americans cant stop talking about) but other than that we have another 3 or 4 paragraphs from you that contains jack sheet Boxing material.

You may as well not be here.

[Kezzer]

I really don't know how Hearn and AJ could think they could offer Wilder 120 mill for four fights that when he would be away from his network for four fights.. They wanted 1st fight Wilder vs breazeal in England, second, whyte vs Wilder in England, followed by two fights in Saudi vs AJ! Meanwhile, Wilder would be stuck at 100 million. Not to mention if some of that goes to the network Wilder is supporting.. It was meant to be turned down.

Firstly this thread was about Usyk, not Wilder.

But to correct you.

DAZN offered 120 million so I highly doubt they would pay that to have a fight staged in uk time. Remember even AJ got only a minimal fee from dazn for his uk based time fight against ruiz2.

The offer was either 100 mil for Brezeale following by AJ x2 fights or 120 which included a further fourth fight after the two AJ fights against a “to be agreed” opponent.

There was never any mention of Whyte but clearly most fans would consider that a very good matchup, one Wilder is expected to win but tougher than any of his previous opponents he has beaten so far.

[5000boxing]

Firstly this thread was about Usyk, not Wilder.

But to correct you.

DAZN offered 120 million so I highly doubt they would pay that to have a fight staged in uk time. Remember even AJ got only a minimal fee from dazn for his uk based time fight against ruiz2.

The offer was either 100 mil for Brezeale following by AJ x2 fights or 120 which included a further fourth fight after the two AJ fights against a “to be agreed” opponent.

There was never any mention of Whyte but clearly most fans would consider that a very good matchup, one Wilder is expected to win but tougher than any of his previous opponents he has beaten so far.

Wilder is his own boss.. But taking 3 fights to fight on another network is ******, considering he would be helping Al Haymons competition. One fight vs AJ. Ok.. But three for 100million?? Possibly 4 for another 20 million??? Do you have any idea why AJ didn't take the 50million?? Its called loyalty. Same reason Wilder didn't take 120 for four fights! Loyalty! It's not what you can get up front.. Because fighters get crazy offers from billionaires all the time.. It's about the teams that represent these fighters.. They are the ones who built their fighters from ground zero.. Why would a real man turn his back on his team and network? I mean.. That's the very definition of a sellout! ill bring you down to reality.. The fight won't happen until Barry Hearn and Al Haymon sit down and have a chat to figure out how to make the most money for both of their companies in a joint venture.

[Nusky]

Good stuff Nusky, you analyze boxing. I once believed in AJ but he hasn’t been hungry since the Klitschko fight. Fight enough bums and you pick up bad habits.

Love Usyk just question whether he should be at Heavy weight. He was a top fighter and they forced him up before he was ready.

Andrade is being put on the pay me no mind list? Just dumb...

Farmer is decent but not quite earning a rep as a boogie man. Feels very vulnerable in his division. Let’s be honest he is not dominating the guys he should.

Agree on Jacobs, he is content to eek out victories and he is just not doing enough. The Blue chippers are Canelo and Haney...

But maybe if the match ups were better I could have more faith in their roster. Right now Hearn believes in his fight manipulation more than his roster of talent.

"Fight manipulation" is definitely a good way of putting it.

I knew I forgot someone... Haney is promising but we still have to see how they continue to move him.

[REDEEMER]

Wilder is his own boss.. But taking 3 fights to fight on another network is ******, considering he would be helping Al Haymons competition. One fight vs AJ. Ok.. But three for 100million?? Possibly 4 for another 20 million??? Do you have any idea why AJ didn't take the 50million?? Its called loyalty. Same reason Wilder didn't take 120 for four fights! Loyalty! It's not what you can get up front.. Because fighters get crazy offers from billionaires all the time.. It's about the teams that represent these fighters.. They are the ones who built their fighters from ground zero.. Why would a real man turn his back on his team and network? I mean.. That's the very definition of a sellout! ill bring you down to reality.. The fight won't happen until Barry Hearn and Al Haymon sit down and have a chat to figure out how to make the most money for both of their companies in a joint venture.

Any fighter that continues to have the mic taking off him by Finkel who basically tells Wilder to hush up and take over interviews where it first started in 2015 when he grabbed the mic telling fans Wilder will not fight Klitschko because he’s a baby is not his own boss.

Haymon also has final say on his contract of who he fights so any fight can be shot down by him ,when Wilder says he has the final say on who he fights he is just lying as usual . Haymon has binding contracts that ties him to his fighters ,he is the master they are the ****** .

[Slicc]

Ha... WTF? Wilder is fighting number #2 Redreamer. How do you duck #4 by fighting an even better #2. It’s like saying Redreamer owns a Vespa because a Ducatti wasn’t fast enough for him. Doesn’t make sense bot? So why would anyone at Matchroom be telling lies? Oh that’s right it is just what you guys do.

AJ was #1 when Wilder received those DAZN offers. You're being very disingenuous.

Further more AJ is fighting a guy not even in the top 10!!! The only sanctioning body putting Pulev in their top 10 is the very much in bed with Hearn IBF. That shows how fake these BS mandatories are.

AJ has to fight Pulev to keep his IBF strap. Besides, how many top 10 opponents did Wilder face before Ortiz? I can't imagine there'd be many.

There are no talking points for this Redreamer. AJ should be ranked down to #7 for ducking top fighters and waisting valuable belt time with this specially designed AJ feeder pool of sure wins.

How much does Al Haymon pay you to shill like that? He's the unified champion and has the best resume in the division, but only deserves to be ranked #7? Wilder dodged life-changing money, but AJ's ducking?

No wonder DAZN is struggling as 99% of their fights aren’t compelling. And when they are compelling it was clearly by accident!!! Dazn is not participating in the sport of boxing, they are simply a monthly showcase for very specific fighters and their delusion prone fans.

This is MK Ultra level brainwashing. DAZN isn't participating in the sport of boxing? They offered Wilder gigantic money to face Joshua and weren't even considered. They offered Jermall a career payday to face Andrade, and I haven't heard him address it yet. They're invested in young talent like Stevenson and Haney. They're also providing their fights for only $20 a month, while Fox charged a $75 PPV to watch Wilder knock Ortiz out again lol. I don't get what all these PBC shills have against DAZN.

[Slicc]

Wilder is his own boss.. But taking 3 fights to fight on another network is ******, considering he would be helping Al Haymons competition.

Acting in someone else's best interests and letting them dictate your moves is not being your own boss.

Why would a real man turn his back on his team and network? I mean.. That's the very definition of a sellout!

Tell me, did you feel this way, when Wilder turned his back on Showtime to fight Ortiz on Fox PPV? This is business at the end of the day. Al Haymon and the big wigs at Showtime couldn't give a fat fuck about Wilder.

ill bring you down to reality.. The fight won't happen until Barry Hearn and Al Haymon sit down and have a chat to figure out how to make the most money for both of their companies in a joint venture.

But, Wilder's his own boss doe. AJ's signed with Eddie Hearn, not Barry, so idk what you're bringing him up for.