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    #261
    Originally posted by Skyway71
    I can see how bias you are when you include Delahoya and Hatton, the fights that happened before 2010. The topic is for 10' - 19' decade. You even credit the McGregor fight as legit. Gtfo. And taking a real good look at both their opposition in the decade in question, you'll realize Pac took more chances against more undefeated fighters than Floyd, more highly ranked WW and p4p fighters than Floyd, and more younger Lions than Floyd. Floyd did not even give the new gens the chance to take the torch. Instead he relinquished them and cut out early 4 yrs before the decade ends. Not only that, Floyd has a history of retiring early when the competition got tough. The undefeated fighter Floyd has is Canelo and I'll give him that even when Canelo was green and undefeated. You can spew more BS but it won't change the fact that Pac is the one taking on the real competition at any given time.
    Now I see the problem.

    All you care about is that YOU don't rate certain fighters. You don't care about the outcome. SO, in contradict to what you said, it's NOT about effort, is it?

    Bro, just say that. You'd get a lot more respect.

    And the reason I included De La Hoya is that he is only one of two of the C's needed to show you that otherwise, Floyd Mayweather has a stellar performance record compared to Mr. Manny Pacquiao and even compared to Carnelo. Now, you don't agree because you don't like Floyd's opponents.

    I'll leave you with this.

    "At the end of the day", Floyd Mayweather performed better in that ring than Manny Pacquiao, 50 times, and within the decade, beat BOTH Manny and Carnelo with EASE. You cannot be FOTD when you LOST!!!!...to one of the other candidates. SO no Manny. And no Carnelo.

    Done.

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    • hugh grant
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      #262
      Floyd s claim to fame will be beating 2 fotds at their weakest

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      • Dosumpthin
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        #263
        Originally posted by hugh grant


        Nah, logic don't work like that. Horn ain't greater than pac. When Bradley beat pac he wasn't considered greater as Pac got a better resume. Nobody who's beaten Pac is considered greater, neither is floyd.
        Pac mostly beat common opponents more dominant unless Floyd cheated scales. Floyd being unbeaten.means nothing as he was cautious throughout career and if everything rests on his unbeaten record nobody thinks he's unbeaten anyway with gift decisions. Losses isn't a problem.any, it's being cautious getting things in your favour, not fighting abroad which hurts floyd
        Pac refused to face Floyd in his prime. Not Floyd's fault prime ATGs avoided him.


        Time to accept it. None of the silly awards, nonsensical accolades or imaginative losses will ever change the fact Manny lost to Floyd.

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        • Skyway71
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          #264
          Originally posted by revelated
          Now I see the problem.

          All you care about is that YOU don't rate certain fighters. You don't care about the outcome. SO, in contradict to what you said, it's NOT about effort, is it?

          Bro, just say that. You'd get a lot more respect.

          And the reason I included De La Hoya is that he is only one of two of the C's needed to show you that otherwise, Floyd Mayweather has a stellar performance record compared to Mr. Manny Pacquiao and even compared to Carnelo. Now, you don't agree because you don't like Floyd's opponents.

          I'll leave you with this.

          "At the end of the day", Floyd Mayweather performed better in that ring than Manny Pacquiao, 50 times, and within the decade, beat BOTH Manny and Carnelo with EASE. You cannot be FOTD when you LOST!!!!...to one of the other candidates. SO no Manny. And no Carnelo.

          Done.
          The ratings of their wins of who you thought were A, B+, C, D F performances is your opinion. And I'm not the one qualified to rate who the best WW and p4p fighter at the time during their competition. It's the boxing experts rating them and that how it went down between the 2 in terms of who took the better competition in the time frame. My reference to HS diplomas to reward & Recognition in a sport is an analogy and nothing more. I don't have to grade a fighters performance when all I can do is evaluate and consider the route of competition the fighter is taking. And I feel Pac is taking the harder route. And I'm not the one rating his opponents. You can't seem to take notice of that so I have come in here and make it make sense logically. And you're still spewing "How can a guy with losses be FOTD". It's real simple. Just look at the fighters who previously won FOTD. They have losses, too. A carefully managed undefeated record is not enough.

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          • Dosumpthin
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            #265
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Floyd s claim to fame will be beating 2 fotds at their weakest
            Correction: Floyd made them look weak. That's how much better he is compared to his peers.

            They were winning before Floyd and winning after Floyd....they just got embarrassed in the ring.

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            • hugh grant
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              #266
              Originally posted by Dosumpthin
              Correction: Floyd made them look weak. That's how much better he is compared to his peers.

              They were winning before Floyd and winning after Floyd....they just got embarrassed in the ring.
              PAC is smaller and longer career and more wear and tear floyds expected to win. The fact PAC is winning after the Floyd loss the credit goes to PAC, not Floyd. The fact PAC came back after jmm loss the credit goes to pac
              But Floyd didn't look strong in win over PAC. He looked bad and embarrassed himself

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              • Skyway71
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                #267
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                But Floyd didn't look strong in win over PAC. He looked bad and embarrassed himself
                He got hurt, too. His own worried father in the corner expressed how his son was not impressive, too. And some these guys use this win over Pac has a significant criteria towards FOTD when Floyd did not complete the decade. Unbelievable.
                Last edited by Skyway71; 01-12-2020, 08:17 PM.

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                • Mr. Philadel
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                  #268
                  He’s right and wrong...I would pick Pac but it’s definitely close!! Personally I think Pac deserves it but I wouldn’t argue if Lil Floyd won it

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by BoomBapTrap
                    M-A-N-N-Y !!!
                    U got Manny on your mind!
                    Go Manny! Go Go!
                    Go Manny!
                    Every single time!
                    U wake up to grind!
                    With MANNY on your mind!
                    Go Manny!



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                    doo da da doo da... da da doo da... smoooooth criminal

                    killer track that one LMAO

                    seriously, even after all these years .... check out that shlt

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                    • hansS
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                      #270
                      Rare moment in which I agree with Arum.

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