The Sun doesn't know what Fury made against Wilder

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  • killakali
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    #31
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    warren is a promoter. promoters lie all the time. the filed purses show it wasnt 50/50 and the reported guarantees show it wasnt 50/50. nobody is asking you to believe me. the figures are public.
    The field purses aren’t the real purses and don’t include the up money either. You have been proven to like all the time. Just like in this case.

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    • killakali
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      #32
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      the filed purses were publicly announced. they werent 50/50. the actual guarantees were widely reported by credible outlets. they werent 50/50.

      youre a lunatic.
      Yes they were reported as 50-50 by credible sites

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        #33
        Originally posted by killakali
        Yes they were reported as 50-50 by credible sites
        No, they weren't. Every credible site reported the filed purses were 4 million Wilder, 3 million Fury. Filed purses are publicly available information. If the filed purses weren't 50/50, the guarantees weren't 50/50 either. The reported guarantees were 14 million and 10 million.

        If you have a link to a credible site reporting different figures than those, go ahead and supply the link.

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        • joe strong
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          #34
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Yes they are. If a PPV sells a million buys, the fighters make way more than 24 million combined.




          Sure. I'll walk you right through the flaw of your numbers. It's not your fault. You got your quote from wikipedia.

          "Despite Frank Warren's original claim that the revenue would be split 50-50, it was revealed that if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£11 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million). Both boxers would see this increase to their base purses after receiving their percentages from pay-per-view revenue."

          Wikipedia information is supposed to be sourced. So go ahead and click the source for your wikipedia quote. The source link brings you here:



          Go ahead and read that entire article. Absolutely nowhere in there does it say anything about needing to sell a million buys. It just says the guarantees are 14 million and 10 million. The "million buy" requirement is completely made up. The "source" for the information doesn't actually contain that information.
          So how much did they make then after it was all said & done? So they did get 14 & 10 million?

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            #35
            Originally posted by joe strong
            So how much did they make then after it was all said & done? So they did get 14 & 10 million?
            Impossible for any of us to know the exact amount they made. 14 and 10 were their guaranteed minimums. Based on the PPV selling 325k, they likely made right around their minimums. It's possible they made a little more. But it wouldn't have been much more.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Impossible for any of us to know the exact amount they made. 14 and 10 were their guaranteed minimums. Based on the PPV selling 325k, they likely made right around their minimums. It's possible they made a little more. But it wouldn't have been much more.
              Pretty solid numbers for 36 minute of work

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                #37
                Originally posted by joe strong
                Pretty solid numbers for 36 minute of work
                sometimes when you're making that much, it's more about respect than the actual number. wilder and fury are both the kind of guys who will fight anyone. they both felt disrespected by joshua. he kind of pushed them into each other's arms.

                the PPV numbers for the rematch (and hypothetical trilogy) will be fascinating. we've only had two joint PPVs in history (lewIS-tysON & mayweather-pacquiao), but those were HBO & showtime.

                to have Fox and ESPN join together for a PPV, and both promote it incessantly, could wilder vs fury break a million buys? or has it just been too long since society cared about heavyweight boxing in that way? i really have no idea what to expect. could do 500k, could do 1.5 million. it's anybody's guess.

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                  #38
                  Isn't The Sun an anus rag level publication?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    sometimes when you're making that much, it's more about respect than the actual number. wilder and fury are both the kind of guys who will fight anyone. they both felt disrespected by joshua. he kind of pushed them into each other's arms.

                    the PPV numbers for the rematch (and hypothetical trilogy) will be fascinating. we've only had two joint PPVs in history (lewIS-tysON & mayweather-pacquiao), but those were HBO & showtime.

                    to have Fox and ESPN join together for a PPV, and both promote it incessantly, could wilder vs fury break a million buys? or has it just been too long since society cared about heavyweight boxing in that way? i really have no idea what to expect. could do 500k, could do 1.5 million. it's anybody's guess.
                    I'm not sure what to expect either. I figure they should sell at least the same amount of PPVs as the first fight. I guess we will soon see if the WWE & college appearances help Fury draw a few extra people to the event.

                    When Arum signed Fury they chose to let the rematch marinate a little more so they could put Fury in a couple circus bouts on ESPN. The Wallin bout could have ended in disaster from that cut being caused by a punch. You can bet Bob Arum wasn't going to let that fight end on a Fury TKO loss from injury. He won a wide decision despite the presence of the bad cut.

                    Wilder had a spectacular KO over Ortiz so hopefully that draws some more interest. 500000 buys isn't out of the question. I'm sure the 2 of them will be cashing 8 digit paychecks at the very least so I hope it is an exciting bout. I got it a 50/50 fight again.

                    When was the last HW trilogy? Holyfield/Bowe & Holyfield/Ruiz are the last 2 that come to mind. Holy/Ruiz was not that exciting but still a trilogy none the less. Could Fury/Wilder be the next great trilogy? The first fight was solid with lots of drama so hopefully the rematch is as good if not better. It should be an exciting night...
                    Last edited by joe strong; 01-09-2020, 06:19 PM.

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                    • Monzon99
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                      #40
                      Wilder vs Fury is an inside job fix. Neithe can make anything unless they fight Joshua which they both will not do. Both ducked huge career high offers last year. Wilder and Fury are using each other to make money in their fake rigged fights, hoping their trilogy increases their value and draw power. But it's not working. All roads lead to Joshua.

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