why did so many top fighters struggle with john ruiz?

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    #11
    as the likes of Holyfield (3X), Rahman, Valuev (2X), Chagaev, and Jones Jr found out, just because you catch him doesn't mean you're gonna knock him out.
    That's a good point. Ruiz did have a good chin. I've been rewatching a ton of his fights lately and his boring style made people overlook how good he was.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #12
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      You cared enough to click the thread. You cared enough to reply to the thread.

      Several others cared enough to click the thread and reply to the thread.

      If you don't care, feel free to ignore. Why do you care if others are interested? It's been 20 years since we've had an undisputed heavyweight champion and John Ruiz is the reason why. He's historically significant.
      Historically significant???
      No, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschko, Ali, Frazier are HISTORICALLY significant.

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        #13
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
        Historically significant???
        No, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschko, Ali, Frazier are HISTORICALLY significant.
        Ruiz fought Evander Holyfield three times, Hasim Rahman, Nikolai Valuev twice, Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, David Haye, Tony Tucker, and Ruslan Chagaev.

        He won the WBA World Heavyweight Title twice.

        He's also the first person who wasn't either white or black to win a world heavyweight title.

        That's historically significant no matter which way you look at it.
        Last edited by famicommander; 01-02-2020, 11:29 PM.

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          #14
          ''Fought'' safely and boringly and borderline illegally
          Tua took all of the gumption out of him.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
            Historically significant???
            No, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschko, Ali, Frazier are HISTORICALLY significant.
            Like all of the fighters you listed, John Ruiz won the world heavyweight championship on multiple occasions. For his first world heavyweight championship, he defeated Evander Holyfield.

            He was also blatantly ducked by Lennox Lewis.

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              #16
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              Lol Always cracks me up when people say, “Just do this,” as if dozens of professional fighters and trainers haven’t thought of it. Practically everything in boxing is easier said than done. And as relatively weak as Ruiz was as a champion, he didn’t get there by accident.
              Exactly...he was a professional damn fighter, like he never saw an uppercut before.

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                #17
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                Lol Always cracks me up when people say, “Just do this,” as if dozens of professional fighters and trainers haven’t thought of it. Practically everything in boxing is easier said than done. And as relatively weak as Ruiz was as a champion, he didn’t get there by accident.
                I'm not an expert on boxing technique, which is why I'm asking the community to inform me on the technical reason more fighters didn't do this.

                Roy Jones dominated Ruiz in part because he would frequently throw short uppercuts or hooks after Ruiz's jab, anticipating that Ruiz would lunge forward with a hug. It worked enough times that Ruiz got frustrated and significantly reduced the number of hug attempts compared to previous fights.

                If the answer to my question is most fighters aren't as fast as Roy Jones and weren't quick enough to execute the tactic, fine. That's why I'm asking.

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  That's a good point. Ruiz did have a good chin. I've been rewatching a ton of his fights lately and his boring style made people overlook how good he was.
                  A thread about John Ruiz is rare enough, but never in a million years would I have expected to see someone say they were rewatching a bunch of John Ruiz fights lol. Ruiz vs golota was actually a good fight...Norman stone’s antics make it a great fight. Definitely hit that one up if you haven’t already.

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                    #19
                    Facts. I liked Wald K. Tho because when he wasn’t acting timid which was wayyyy too much imo he had the eraser.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by famicommander
                      Ruiz fought Evander Holyfield three times, Hasim Rahman, Nikolai Valuev twice, Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, David Haye, Tony Tucker, and Ruslan Chagaev.

                      He won the WBA World Heavyweight Title twice.

                      He's also the first person who wasn't either white or black to win a world heavyweight title.

                      That's historically significant no matter which way you look at it.
                      Oh, now I get it. Your Puerto Rican.

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