Can someone explain why Golovkin refused to fight Charlo?

[QueensburyRules]

Even after the WBC mandated he must fight Charlo to get to Canelo?

Also, why hasn't he agreed to rematch Dervenchenko?

He wants Canelo to rematch him, but he refused to rematch Derv and Jacobs.

- -If U gotta ask, U too Dum to understand...Duh!!!

[kiaba360]

he hadnt won a title before that time, its only 2015 onwards that he can expect title level opposition as granted.

I know they are considered minor titles, but he had the WBA World from 2010 and the IBO from 2011. Sturm was elevated to WBA Super (this may be the catalyst for the multiple-belt nonsense that Boxing is currently suffering from) for political reasons. Sturm/GGG would've consolidated the WBA titles and legitimized GGG in the division, but Sturm fought guys like Zbik and Soliman instead. Geale (who had beaten Sturm, but then lost his IBF to Barker) was GGG's significant opponent.

Another guy I forgot to mention was Barker, who fought Sturm instead.

Ultimately, it's about risk:reward. The tables have turned, and now GGG finds himself in the position to avoid the younger fighters.

[DreamFighter]

I know they are considered minor titles, but he had the WBA World from 2010 and the IBO from 2011. Sturm was elevated to WBA Super (this may be the catalyst for the multiple-belt nonsense that Boxing is currently suffering from) for political reasons.

well sturm is rightly viewed as one of the most non valid titlists in recent history, so if thats the stick to measure by, its anot a great argument.

Sturm/GGG would've consolidated the WBA titles and legitimized GGG in the division, but Sturm fought guys like Zbik and Soliman instead. Geale (who had beaten Sturm, but then lost his IBF to Barker) was GGG's significant opponent.

yes, Geale, about to retire, is 33 year old GGG's thing to shout about.

3 years younger meanwhile , Canelo has mayweather, cotto kovalev, and GGG's best win in another 3 years time Jacobs (which is one of Canelos lesser title fighta).

[kiaba360]

well sturm is rightly viewed as one of the most non valid titlists in recent history, so if thats the stick to measure by, its anot a great argument.




yes, Geale, about to retire, is 33 year old GGG's thing to shout about.

3 years younger meanwhile , Canelo has mayweather, cotto kovalev, and GGG's best win in another 3 years time Jacobs (which is one of Canelos lesser title fighta).

How you feel about Sturm/Geale as fighters or the quality of GGG's resume speaks more to the state of the MW division at that time. I'm not making the argument that GGG's resume is better than Canelo's, definitely not. My overall point is that GGG's MW resume is probably the best that it can be, given his unique circumstances. Now he has the chance to expand his resume by facing younger fighters like Andrade and Charlo, and I hope that he goes down that route instead of waiting for a Canelo rematch that will probably never come. He's getting paid very well, so it's not like that's a career issue anymore.

[DreamFighter]

How you feel about Sturm/Geale as fighters or the quality of GGG's resume speaks more to the state of the MW division at that time.

people were aware that Sturm was faking it.

Geale was retiring , not state of the division. Both cotto and GGG picked him at his weakest.


but these dont explain years and years, just points.

[aboutfkntime]

How you feel about Sturm/Geale as fighters or the quality of GGG's resume speaks more to the state of the MW division at that time. I'm not making the argument that GGG's resume is better than Canelo's, definitely not. My overall point is that GGG's MW resume is probably the best that it can be, given his unique circumstances. Now he has the chance to expand his resume by facing younger fighters like Andrade and Charlo, and I hope that he goes down that route instead of waiting for a Canelo rematch that will probably never come. He's getting paid very well, so it's not like that's a career issue anymore.

" unique circumstances " ... ?

it sounds like you are making excuses for your little ret4rded brother

Golovkin could have fought Lara... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Ward... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Mora... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Cotto... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Saunders... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Charlo... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Andrade... but HE CHOSE not to


Golovkin took the fights he wanted, and he passed on the rest...

JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE

he is 100% responsible, therefore 100% accountable, for his resume'

I have been following boxing for decades

never heard fans make excuses for a fighters resume before now

never

[kiaba360]

" unique circumstances " ... ?

it sounds like you are making excuses for your little ret4rded brother

Golovkin could have fought Lara... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Ward... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Mora... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Cotto... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Saunders... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Charlo... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Andrade... but HE CHOSE not to


Golovkin took the fights he wanted, and he passed on the rest...

JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE

he is 100% responsible, therefore 100% accountable, for his resume'

I have been following boxing for decades

never heard fans make excuses for a fighters resume before now

never

-GGG fought Jacobs, who fought Mora. Mora would've been an interesting style match-up.
-GGG fought Canelo, who fought Cotto. GGG/Cotto was never going to happen anyway.
-I know you hold it against him for never facing Lara and Ward, but the objective fact is that they were never MWs. Lara has successfully campaigned at LMW, while Ward campaigned at SMW and LHW. If you wanna complain about him never moving up or down and "daring to be great", fair enough.

I agree that GGG should face the likes of Charlo/Andrade, especially Andrade. I think those match-ups would satisfy those who are angry for him not ever facing Lara/Mora.

[Curt Henning]

canelo told golovkin go get a belt and then went and fought at LHW....when golovkin chose to go get a belt they chose the guy that jacobs had already beaten...instead of offerint charlo to come over......now youve got hearn saying theyre offering charlo 7 mil to come fight andrade...yet golovkin wouldnt fight andrade....and he wouldnt fight charlo...instead they paid 6 mil to chenko to come over....because they thought he was the easiest fight....where was the money to bring charlo over for golovkin?

now the golovkin fans are saying "hes waiting for canelo so hes satisfying his mando" even though i dont think the mando defense was even called for...and the reality is if even if he does get a 3rd canelo fight its likely not going to be at 160

[Boxing Goat]

Even after the WBC mandated he must fight Charlo to get to Canelo?

Also, why hasn't he agreed to rematch Dervenchenko?

He wants Canelo to rematch him, but he refused to rematch Derv and Jacobs.

Oh, IDK, it may because he really beat Canelo twice and even the most critical hater knows he beat him once.

[aboutfkntime]

-GGG fought Jacobs, who fought Mora. Mora would've been an interesting style match-up.
-GGG fought Canelo, who fought Cotto. GGG/Cotto was never going to happen anyway.
-I know you hold it against him for never facing Lara and Ward, but the objective fact is that they were never MWs. Lara has successfully campaigned at LMW, while Ward campaigned at SMW and LHW. If you wanna complain about him never moving up or down and "daring to be great", fair enough.

I agree that GGG should face the likes of Charlo/Andrade, especially Andrade. I think those match-ups would satisfy those who are angry for him not ever facing Lara/Mora.

you totally missed the point

first, you insist that Golovkin's resume could not possibly be any better

then, you totally ignore the bold

forget making excuses, for your ret4rded little brother... read the bold...

Golovkin could have fought Lara... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Ward... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Mora... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Cotto... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Saunders... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Charlo... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Andrade... but HE CHOSE not to

FACT: Golovkin is 100% responsible... therefore 100% accountable... for his (shabby) resume'


saying that Lara was not a middleweight, is a plss-weak excuse

neither were Rosado, Brook, Vanes, etc...

Golovkin CHOSE not to fight Lara, who would have been his best opponent to date... so stop making silly excuses... FACT: Golovkin could have fought him, but he chose not to... just like all the others

it is childish to refuse to hold a man responsible for his own decisions

FACT: Golovkin's resume could be WAAAAAY better... and would be WAAAAAY better, if he was good enough... but nope, he passed