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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostAbsolute garbage that you just posted hahaa. Povetkin, Klitschko, Whyte, Ruiz and half of AJ'S opponents...Wilder has refused to fight. So that automatically makes Wilder have an inferior resume. Let alone the fact that Aaj has garnered 3 or 4 belts in half the time that Wilder has his one. Also, outside of Ortiz who is 40 and Fury, how many top 25 opponents does Wilder have on his record? Exactly. He has turned down more top fighters than he has actually fought.
Yes, I stand corrected, that resume blows my socks off.
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Wow, cong**** your a Wilder fan girl.
If Foch was second rate Wilders record is garbage in comparison, go line them up in boxrec its an easy win for Carl.
Foch wasn't the greatest middleweight of all time but his record was first-rate, At 25 fights he won his first world title when Wilder was still fighting guys who lost there last five (why do PBC'ers defend this ??).
He won three different world titles and defended them around the world (in way less fights than Wilder has had, again can you read boxrec or just nott read ?), including fighting in the super six.
He was also a very action-packed come forward fighter. Did you see how few shots actually landed in Wilder v Fury ?? Go compare Foch Groves on compu box with Wilder vs Fury .. are you on crack ?
Yeah he wasn't as good as say Ward but that doesn't make you second rate, Ward was pound for pound although not the most exciting boxer, Foch was way more entertaining fighter but Ward definitely a more effective one. Why do Americans hate Ward so much ? You know Ward, Hopkins, Floyd all get masive support outside of the States go look at youtube, if your good and you fight the right fights the world will love you Mr Wilder.
Wilder is unpopular with Americans because he ducked the Klitschko fight with the I'm a baby heavyweight speech when Fury and Joshua took it.
I hope Fury v Wilder does 2 million buys because that's good for boxing and Fury deserves a lot of credit for his step-ups. The big fights deserve stadiums, not half-empty arenas.
Originally posted by teamindividual View Post80k brits showed up for Froch vs Groves, a fight between second and third rate super middleweights at the time. It's not a high bar over there. Maybe cricket isn't exciting enough Lol. If AJ ever gets over his fear of fighting in the States (especially Vegas) I think he will draw well there
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostWhat I also find funny is that AJ's next fight with Pulev will be in a huge soccer stadium and it will sell out within hours. No piggybacking off NFL or college football. No need to do promos where it looks like WWF or WWE. Just a boxer with multiple belts who is fighting highly ranked competition every time he fights. That's why the entire UK gets behind him. Take Fury and Wilder off each others record and what do you have? Mostly bums, old men, gatekeepers and the rest. Neither one of them has fought the best and that's why they can't sell a fight. No one wants to see them fight more bums. We want to see them fight Povetkin, AJ, Whyte and other with no excuses. Fight them all and THEN maybe Wilder or Fury can fill an arena. And one question to all you Wilder fans. How many of you have ever been to one of his fights? How many of you have ever actually bought a ticket to watch him KO another bum?
Ring magazine
1 Fury
2 Wilder
3 Josh
4 Whyte
5 Ortiz
6 Ruiz etc
The 2 best heavyweights on the planet are fighting for the linear Title
And WBC. These guys are undefeated? 50 million wasn't enough, he had his chance.
Please make excuse list we are eager to hear from the guru.
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Originally posted by teamindividual View Post80k brits showed up for Froch vs Groves, a fight between second and third rate super middleweights at the time. It's not a high bar over there. Maybe cricket isn't exciting enough Lol. If AJ ever gets over his fear of fighting in the States (especially Vegas) I think he will draw well there
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postpovetkin? the same guy that wilder was signed to fight first, flew to Russia to fight him, only to find out he was popped for PEDs? Klitchko? the inactive plus 40 yr old version who was off for a year and and a half was and already beaten by fury in his previous fight? Whyte? - the guy who goes life and death with gate keeper chisora and was also popped for ped use? Ruiz? The fat 20-1 underdog who took the fight on short notice and knocked Aj down until he quit? Then came in 15 pounds fatter and still had Joshua scared to death to engage with?
Yes, I stand corrected, that resume blows my socks off.
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Originally posted by petero View PostYeah, wow you really know alot, we are all in awe of your long winded posts.
Ring magazine
1 Fury
2 Wilder
3 Josh
4 Whyte
5 Ortiz
6 Ruiz etc
The 2 best heavyweights on the planet are fighting for the linear Title
And WBC. These guys are undefeated? 50 million wasn't enough, he had his chance.
Please make excuse list we are eager to hear from the guru.
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Originally posted by teamindividual View Post80k brits showed up for Froch vs Groves, a fight between second and third rate super middleweights at the time. It's not a high bar over there. Maybe cricket isn't exciting enough Lol. If AJ ever gets over his fear of fighting in the States (especially Vegas) I think he will draw well there
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Originally posted by DougalDylan View PostWow, cong**** your a Wilder fan girl.
If Foch was second rate Wilders record is garbage in comparison, go line them up in boxrec its an easy win for Carl.
Foch wasn't the greatest middleweight of all time but his record was first-rate, At 25 fights he won his first world title when Wilder was still fighting guys who lost there last five (why do PBC'ers defend this ??).
He won three different world titles and defended them around the world (in way less fights than Wilder has had, again can you read boxrec or just nott read ?), including fighting in the super six.
He was also a very action-packed come forward fighter. Did you see how few shots actually landed in Wilder v Fury ?? Go compare Foch Groves on compu box with Wilder vs Fury .. are you on crack ?
Yeah he wasn't as good as say Ward but that doesn't make you second rate, Ward was pound for pound although not the most exciting boxer, Foch was way more entertaining fighter but Ward definitely a more effective one. Why do Americans hate Ward so much ? You know Ward, Hopkins, Floyd all get masive support outside of the States go look at youtube, if your good and you fight the right fights the world will love you Mr Wilder.
Wilder is unpopular with Americans because he ducked the Klitschko fight with the I'm a baby heavyweight speech when Fury and Joshua took it.
I hope Fury v Wilder does 2 million buys because that's good for boxing and Fury deserves a lot of credit for his step-ups. The big fights deserve stadiums, not half-empty arenas.
I don't really mean second rate as an insult, my point was Froch had already been dominated by a one-armed Ward and had been outboxed by Groves (who was decent but proved to never be elite) until the bogus UK stoppage in the first fight. They were both good fighters but it was more a fight for domestic supremacy, not world supremacy.
You also are not taking into account that the ticket prices are cheap for UK stadium fights and based on my stadium experiences here the experience is subpar to the intimate experience of the MGM Grand where I have been to a couple of Pacquiao fights. 90k at Wembley for AJ vs. Klit only generated a gate of 11 million dollars. Canelo vs GGG in Vegas generated 27 million dollars with 25% of the attendance. Your pea brain may not be able to wrap your head around that but I figured I'd give it a shot.
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostUmmm Fury AND Ortiz both tested positive for steroids. Care to comment on that? I though so...
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