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  • BoomBapTrap
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    #11
    Originally posted by giant_king
    Yeah buddy he's up there with the best Jack Johnson Joe Luis 80s Mike Tyson Lennox Lewis.those are the Elite
    Indeed he is!

    But would he be still if he was strictly a points fighter?
    Notice how not many fellas can input an opinion.

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    • HewJohnson
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      #12
      Ali was one of the greatest because he had action packed fights and he fought till the end, no running or relying on points.

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      • Vodkaholic
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        #13
        HoW mAny cHaMPs Did Ali BeAt!!!?
        Mayweather the best ever!

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        • QueensburyRules
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          #14
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          Originally posted by BoomBapTrap
          Would Muhammad Ali still be considered “the greatest” if he implemented a run and hug and pillow jab style to win on points every fight??

          This is a serious question.

          Just rewatching the Foreman Ali fight and man Ali was awesome man. He was taking those punches allowing Foreman to wear out and then BOOM.

          But what if Ali fought like kmJoshua did against Ruiz 2nd time?

          What if Ali fought every fight with intention of winnin on points, by running hugging and pillow jabbing?


          Would he still be considered the greatest? Would he have been as historic to boxing as he has been?
          - -what uvûuuuu

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          • giant_king
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            #15
            Originally posted by BoomBapTrap
            Indeed he is!

            But would he be still if he was strictly a points fighter?
            Notice how not many fellas can input an opinion.
            To be honest I really don't know but I will say this he will forever be a legend because of what he stood for.A strong black man who stood up for his people and that alone makes him one of the greatest.He was a warrior in and out of the ring

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              #16
              Originally posted by BoomBapTrap
              Same resume, except all his KO/TKO wins are UD/SD and absolutely no knockdowns in his fights, just winning on points. With very low volume output of punches.
              Hmm, I can say for sure I'd like him less, but, ever since I was young I wondered how many people who speak about Ali or Tyson ever actually watched them vs how many were just going along with public craze.


              So, i think maybe The Lip gets up there regardless. Because if he still has his mouth and still has his wins over big names then I'm sure he still has his control of public perceptions.


              To me, it'd make that whole era seem a bit ****ty. It's an amatuer's gameplan that should get you ktfo in the pros to be honest.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                Hmm, I can say for sure I'd like him less, but, ever since I was young I wondered how many people who speak about Ali or Tyson ever actually watched them vs how many were just going along with public craze.


                So, i think maybe The Lip gets up there regardless. Because if he still has his mouth and still has his wins over big names then I'm sure he still has his control of public perceptions.


                To me, it'd make that whole era seem a bit ****ty. It's an amatuer's gameplan that should get you ktfo in the pros to be honest.
                I don’t think he’d be considered as great.

                As a boxer, you’re not supposed to go in there with the intention of avoiding combat and winning on points only, you’re supposed to go in there and fight.

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                • BoomBapTrap
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
                  One thing is for sure. If Ali fought like AJ did, he'd have been KTFO by Foreman.

                  Lmao.
                  Imagine Ali being a points fighter every fight?
                  Nobody would call him the greatest.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by rolshans
                    Ali did his fair share of jabbing and clinching tbh
                    This. Have any of you guys watched Ali fights besides the Foreman fight?

                    Plenty of Ali fights involve running, jabbing & clinching to a points win or late stoppage. I wouldn't be surprised to learn AJ or Team AJ spent some time watching Ali fights to prep for Ruiz cuz to me AJ was largely doing a slower poor man's version of Ali in the rematch.

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                    • ruedboy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by rolshans
                      Ali did his fair share of jabbing and clinching tbh
                      True. Ali was a great fighter but as he aged he got away with a lot of holding and benefited from favorable judging.
                      The true greatness of Ali was that he was bigger than boxing and was loved by people all over the world.

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