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  • PunchyPotorff
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    #51
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    There was a time when 10 counts did not exist, and all a fighter needed to do? Was get to his feet etc

    It was a long count, but even still Tyson Fury got up.
    Ask a qualified ref and they'll tell you it is a ten count. It isn't ten seconds. That's where fans get mixed up.

    But from what I've read since that fight... more fans are amazed that Fury was even able to get up.... which you alluded to... than the count. Here's hoping for an equally entertaining rematch.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #52
      Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
      Ask a qualified ref and they'll tell you it is a ten count. It isn't ten seconds. That's where fans get mixed up.

      But from what I've read since that fight... more fans are amazed that Fury was even able to get up.... which you alluded to... than the count. Here's hoping for an equally entertaining rematch.
      It is the referee's count of 10, not 10 seconds precisely.

      It was a long count but, Tyson Fury got up on the count of 10 etc

      If this fight happened 100 years ago, nobody would care 'Give the fighters 50 seconds to get to their feet'.

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      • sportbuddha
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        #53
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        What I am stating is? Since Tyson Fury has fought Deontay Wilder, we have not seen a linear progression/resurgence in his performance 'That is what you would expect if he was truly at 50% when he was facing Deontay Wilder.

        Tyson Fury in each fight SINCE Deontay Wilder has looked worse, against fighters who where not elite level fighters 'The fighters he had faced where good solid fighters, but not elite level fighters'.

        You cannot make excuses for Tyson Fury's performances, he has been training for YEARS now 'And still we have not witnessed these massive improvements in-which his team have been promising' etc

        Deontay Wilder may be dropping rounds, but he is fighting at elite level. 'Wilder's preparation coming into this rematch, has been more adequate in comparison to Tyson Fury's'.

        Note: I am not sure who will win the fight, but I know for sure? That Tyson Fury is going to have to show more variation/dimensions in in his game plan this time around.
        I don’t think the last two bouts tell us much about the Fury who will show up to face Wilder, I am sure he will be sharper than his last fights.

        I agree btw, he hasn’t looked better since fighting Wilder, but for me he always looks like that, that’s basically how he boxes, but he doesn’t lose many rounds and that’s why he is undefeated.

        I’ve said for a long time, Fury is probably the best boxer in the HW division but is utterly boring too watch, he just boxes ugly. He’ll do it again against Wilder, but my point is he is actually in better physical shape, his weight is more managed and he’ll have a better engine and will be less static than in the first fight. Unless he does something ****** he’s going to work through 12 rounds and get the win again.

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #54
          Originally posted by sportbuddha
          I don’t think the last two bouts tell us much about the Fury who will show up to face Wilder, I am sure he will be sharper than his last fights.

          I agree btw, he hasn’t looked better since fighting Wilder, but for me he always looks like that, that’s basically how he boxes, but he doesn’t lose many rounds and that’s why he is undefeated.

          I’ve said for a long time, Fury is probably the best boxer in the HW division but is utterly boring too watch, he just boxes ugly. He’ll do it again against Wilder, but my point is he is actually in better physical shape, his weight is more managed and he’ll have a better engine and will be less static than in the first fight. Unless he does something ****** he’s going to work through 12 rounds and get the win again.
          Tyson Fury is like Muhammad Ali/Chris Eubank Senior I.E These type of fighters train and fight to the level of their opponents, that is why Muhammad Ali sometimes had some odd fights 'I know what type of fighter Fury is in that sense'.

          But the difference is? Tyson Fury has been dedicated and training with a work ethic he has never shown before 'So normally you would expect him to be showing a linear progression'.

          Tyson Fury will improve against Deontay Wilder, but will that increase in performance be enough? This will be the big factor going into the fight 'The game changing preparation for this fight, could really be Anthony Joshua joining his camp' If this happens, it will immediately negate any advantage Wilder has had with facing better proponents of late.

          Anthony Joshua will bring that fear factor into the camp, because he is big technical heavyweight who has half decent power 'That is ideal preparation for Deontay Wilder'.

          Deontay Wilder has massive momentum right now, make no mistake about it? Tyson Fury is attempting to conquer a mountain.
          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-03-2020, 07:02 AM.

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