Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: I Do Think Tyson Fury Will Stop Deontay Wilder!

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  • Yaconcha
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    #31
    Originally posted by Terrell1555
    I live in Las Vegas and it’s sad how they are totally selling BS for this foreigner over our Amerikkkan champion!

    No buzz and no sales in Fury’s last two fights in Las Vegas, both outings Fury sold less than half the arena seats! And yet he is more known here in the states! He’s truly got the complexion for the protection. Wilder IMO is going to finish the job decisively this time!
    Hey my American friend, I’m an Englishman and Londoner through and through however, I’m slightly biased in that fury, is from the north of England and we don’t particularly like ****** *****s either but I am a fan of boxing and fully expect wilder to finish the job this time.
    Fury can move and stick his arm out yes but that’s it.
    He has zero power and will not engage with anyone and this makes his “fights” boring. He spends far too much time clowning and wasting the 3 minutes as possible, that’s his game every time.
    Other norvunors on the other hand are and have been far more respected by both us and yourselves over the years for who they are, what they can do and what’s left behind.
    I don’t like to be associated with fackin prix like this just for being from the same country so the quicker wilder gets the cant outta there the better as far as we’re concerned.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #32
      Originally posted by SteveM
      "Nigel Benn was a bit more durable than Deontay Wilder, but in terms of personality inside of the ring? Benn & Wilder are very similar fighters etc" 'It almost ignites a competitive spirit inside of them which goes into overdrive'.

      Never made that comparison before but you are on to something, though when Fury hurt Wilder in the 12th he was sensibly clinging on rather than trying to blast Fury out.

      McClellan and Benn - that was one for the ages for violence with sadly tragic consequences.

      It'd be interesting to come up with a top 3 "aggressive responders" list - those fighters who successfully go batshit crazy when KD'd or hurt
      Deontay Wilder is a extremely game fighter, It is something within his personality 'I don't really see this within many other heavyweights' His gameness overrides his lack of durability 'Although his durability has been proven, to be better than what people used to claim afew years back etc'.

      Usually when a fighter is hurt? You will see them within a fight, change in their approach to the opponent. Fighters will ether go on the back foot, or tactically alter their game plan 'Deontay Wilder may get hurt or drop rounds' But he is like one of those zombie's that have this 'Single minded violent approach'.

      Tyson Fury has to break that determination and make him doubt himself, as well as invading/surviving his punching power.

      A fighter such as Tyson Fury seems to morph from fight to fight 'Depending on the level of opponent he is facing'. He has to add new dimensions to his game, in order to beat Deontay Wilder in this rematch.

      Note: Andy Ruiz Junior seems to also be a extremely game fighter, along with Dillian Whyte.
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-30-2019, 02:08 PM.

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      • SteveM
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        #33
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Deontay Wilder is a extremely game fighter, It is something within his personality 'I don't really see this within many other heavyweights' His gameness overrides his lack of durability 'Although his durability has been proven, to be better than what people used to claim afew years back etc'.

        Usually when a fighter is hurt? You will see them within a fight, change in their approach to the opponent. Fighters will ether go on the back foot, or tactically alter their game plan 'Deontay Wilder may get hurt or drop rounds' But he is like one of those zombie's that have this 'Single minded violent approach'.

        Tyson Fury has to break that determination and make him doubt himself, as well as invading/surviving his punching power.

        A fighter such as Tyson Fury seems to morph from fight to fight 'Depending on the level of opponent he is facing'. He has to add new dimensions to his game, in order to beat Deontay Wilder in this rematch.

        Note: Andy Ruiz Junior seems to also be a extremely game fighter, along with Dillian Whyte.
        I don't think Wilder's willpower will be overcome until he feels himself tiring in a fight to the extent that he can feel the punches he throws are losing strength - then he may doubt that he can get the KO. Otherwise if he still has mobility and strength I think he feels it's just a matter of time.

        I also feel Wilder's timing is improving which is a frightening prospect for his opponents because A class timing mixed with A class power is an horrendous weapon to confront.

        I'll add Derek Chisora to your list.

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        • hugh grant
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          #34
          Originally posted by nick_viking
          Fury is not really a KO puncher, he’s more the type of fighter to make someone quit. I don’t see Wilder as a quitter, so this fight only ends in one of two ways. Fury on points, or Wilder by KO.
          But fury isn't someone who really gets koed

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          • coghaugen
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            #35
            Who cares what a promoter thinks about the practical side of boxing??

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            • slimPickings
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              #36
              Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
              I agreed with Roach (for once) regarding the first fight, that Fury should have pushed forward in the later stages. Wilder was bewildered and susceptible at points, but Davison was over-cautious and begged Fury not to engage - "Don't get greedy!" I seem to remember Davison imploring.

              Not for the first time, a lot of people are underestimating Fury. With the right mindset and some good doses of increased aggression, Fury can not only outbox Wilder, but he will also be able to push Wilder back, where Wilder is clumsy and easier to hit. I should not be surprised if Fury is able to pummel Wilder into submission this time. All Fury needs to do is pick his moments.

              Boxing is all upside down. To go left, you push right. To hit hard, you relax. In this fight, to beat the puncher, Fury must advance into and beyond the firing line. I believe he is crazy/clever enough to pull it off.
              "Dont get greedy" = "pick his moments"

              Still the best strategy against Wilder!!
              Any thing else, he gets carried out on a stretcher.

              By the way i had Fury winning the first fight.

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              • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                #37
                Originally posted by slimPickings
                "Dont get greedy" = "pick his moments"

                Still the best strategy against Wilder!!
                Any thing else, he gets carried out on a stretcher.

                By the way i had Fury winning the first fight.
                not the same thing

                Davison didn't want Fury to engage at all after the knockdown(s), i.e. to pick no moments

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                • Terrell1555
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                  #38
                  I feel entirely what your saying! Sad thing is if Wilder were a Brit you guys would Love him as your champion who is a clean fighter! Over here he’s gained popularity but still gets more hate than love!

                  Fury if he was Black being that damn big and never sitting down on punches would be laughed at! No way would he be rewarded with a huge contract after failed PEDS test, and the media would peel that union apart questioning if he really had a mental break down, or was that just a deflection from his PEDS ABUSE!

                  But watching the press conferences he Fury doesn’t seem very confident! And if he truly believed he won, no way he makes all those changes, no way!

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