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  • #21
    Originally posted by DClefthook View Post
    This fight should have been easy to make because both FOX and ESPN are owned by DISNEY. It's not going to do 2 mill. Hopefully 6 - 900k. Boxing will do huge numbers once everyone starts to fight everyone. When the public realizes boxing is like the 1970s-90s they will come back because they won't be getting a steady dose of "I cant fight you you're on the wrong side of the street WAH WAH WAH". All we need is for PBC and Top rank is to make all fights possible and we will be back in business. And oh yeah we don't need DA-ZASTER. Saw Danny Jacobs in the crowd at the Tank fight last night and looks like he's on his way back over. Just need Haney and Andrade to come to PBC and thats it!
    ESPN is owned by Disney. Disney acquired 21st Century Fox in early 2019. From this, Disney gained a tonne of entertainment content, including the 20th Century Fox film studio and the Fox Sports Network. They didn't get everything, however. One of the things they didn't get was the Fox Broadcasting Company (i.e. the flagship network), Fox Business or the Fox News Channel. Furthermore, the acquisition was only permitted by the Dept of Justice if Fox Sports Networks was sold within 90 days -- which it was, to Sinclair Broadcast Group in August 2019. So I don't think Disney's ownership of ESPN made this fight necessarily any easier to make.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by hectari View Post
      700k is a great number but thats a failure for this type of super fight, FOX and ESPN will reconsider promoting boxing if it doesn't break a million buys this is going to be on PPV.
      Possibly, but who had bigger numbers? Floyd had 1million plus when the other guy brought fans to the table otherwise he was low. Holyfield did well but not more than 1million. And then there's Tyson. ESPN and Fox will stay in the game because they knew they couldn't break 1 million with one but are hoping to have several 500K plus. I hope they do 1.5 million then the winner fights AJ and then the trilogy fight because AJ will lose. Then bring in Andy the spoiler.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by hectari View Post
        700k is a great number but thats a failure for this type of super fight, FOX and ESPN will reconsider promoting boxing if it doesn't break a million buys this is going to be on PPV.
        ESPN is taking the lead on producing this event, with Fox Sports seemingly set to be a minority partner here.

        The event share between the two broadcasters is what it is, but I doubt FOX is hinging their future on this event.

        Can't say the same for ESPN.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          ESPN is taking the lead on producing this event, with Fox Sports seemingly set to be a minority partner here.

          The event share between the two broadcasters is what it is, but I doubt FOX is hinging their future on this event.

          Can't say the same for ESPN.
          FOX has more riding on this fight than ESPN, FOX is heavily invested in boxing since UFC jumped ship and signed with ESPN.

          Fox needs Deontay to win big, if he fails then ESPn will have the power with Tyson Fury.

          They will have a rubber match for sure and both guys will make career high paydays, and could retire off it.

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          • #25
            2 millions buys is delusional.

            What was the last HW PPV that hit as high as 1 million?

            Now i dont discard something in the range of 500k-1million buys if promoted correctly wich i think it will be.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by hectari View Post
              FOX has more riding on this fight than ESPN, FOX is heavily invested in boxing since UFC jumped ship and signed with ESPN.

              Fox needs Deontay to win big, if he fails then ESPn will have the power with Tyson Fury.

              They will have a rubber match for sure and both guys will make career high paydays, and could retire off it.
              FOX has Spence Jr, Pacquiao, the continued 154lb tournament, Caleb Plant/David Benevidez, the name fighters at 147, and the slew of young fighters starting to emerge to anchor their boxing brand.

              Having Wilder for these two PPVs is great, but Wilder's long-term home is on Showtime anyway.

              Top Rank, and ESPN's boxing franchise, is basically ****ed if this goes a way (namely Fury getting KTFO within 6 rounds, after spending all that money on a non-puncher like Fury).

              Crawford flopped, Lomachenko flopped, Fury has flopped, and ESPN would be weighing committing money to a struggling boxing franchise versus committing said money to a ufc property that's already doing well for them.

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              • #27
                Yes this is going to be huge.2 prime top heavyweights fighting each other.Breadth of fresh air which takes us back to years gone by when the best use to fight the best in their primes.

                I cannot wait for this fight.Late Christmas present for me

                🙂

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DClefthook View Post
                  Boxing will do huge numbers once everyone starts to fight everyone. When the public realizes boxing is like the 1970s-90s they will come back because they won't be getting a steady dose of "I cant fight you you're on the wrong side of the street WAH WAH WAH". All we need is for PBC and Top rank is to make all fights possible and we will be back in business.
                  Sooner the better

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                  • #29
                    This fight will only sell about 450k ppv buys let’s be honest man. These promoters,managers and tv networks are delusional. At the end of the day ESPN will really reconsider even having boxing on its network, top rank and are going to the cause of the death of ESPN Boxing.

                    I hope the well drys and the boxing market crashes. Too many of these fighters making too much $$$ they don’t deserve. Perfect example Mikey Garcia, we all know coyote face don’t deserve $7 million to fight Jessie Vargas after the performance he gave us when he fought Spence.

                    Boxers are spoiled man, funny how all the fight of the year candidates make a fraction of what these “boxing stars” make . Fury isn’t worth all this $$, wilder getting paid 8 figures just to get outboxed and land a lucky bomb on someone??

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                    • #30
                      This is a great fight. I am not buying it because I am going to stop supporting fight marination.

                      Fury should have rematched Wilder last year, the first fight built the second fight. There was no need to marinate the rematch.

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