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  • joeytrimble
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    #31
    Originally posted by cortdawg25
    Yeah Ive heard the slogan, but what is 8M, didnt he make 7M last fight. 1M more aint that much difference to him, I dont think..the real ? is why is Arum offering 8M now when Floyd is no longer with him? How is Arum going to benefit from paying 8M, the fight might not even generate more than 8M $$$, I dont even see how he can offer that. For all we know, HBO might be offering him 10M, I know they got the $$$. And its not that we dont want to see him fight Margarito, its the fact that certain people make it seem as if he scared and need to fight Margarito. The debate is "Who is Maragarito to run and duck from, what problems could he actually give Floyd" Thats what the argument is about
    he made 5 million plus gate to fight judah...this fight would be huge as just about every hardcore boxing fan wants it... no not floyd mayweather jr fans...im talking hardcore..the ones who want the big fights to be made who get sick of seeing cory spink fight for titles who wanna see fights! ..not low blow security gaurd tempertantrum drama queens... i dont understand...he stands to make one of his biggest pay days just to fight a suposed nobody who could pose absaulutly zero threat...bladimer would be killed by margarito so would spinks be ..

    so why is mayweather going after them when he needs to fight margarito ..its an easy fight right? ...its sooo easy those big looping punches it'd be worst then the gatti fight... and he'd make a ton! ...the dude who said "whats 8 million" needs to get a copy of what floyd normally makes...

    ****er had to go into gattis back yard just to make a buck...

    i think he should just stop ****ing around...whoop this punk ass mofos ass send him back to where he come from...shut arum up ..then hand oscars ass too him ...kick the **** out of wright and call it a mother ****ing day! he'd be undeafeated and a living legend.... he'd be young...still have his head on his shoulders..have plenty of bills.. have plenty of fans...he'd be another one of the illustrialst undeafeated club ..

    WHY THE **** IS HE MESSING AROUND WITH BALDI AND SPINKS ...

    i dont even wanna hear mosleys name mentioned...mayweather would school his old ass and you guys would ****in ephixiate all over yourselves knowing damn well mosleys been boxing since floyd mayweather was in ****in highschool

    this guy needs to get er done if he wants to go out undeafeated..

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      #32
      Originally posted by amagnin
      A lot of other people think DLH is just trying to secure the fight for Golden Boy that is all I was asking.
      Nopes, of course it's more than that. Both PBF and DLH needs each other. If this fight ever happens it could be the biggest pay check for both and of course they both don't want it jeopardized.

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        #33
        Originally posted by joeytrimble
        he made 5 million plus gate to fight judah...this fight would be huge as just about every hardcore boxing fan wants it... no not floyd mayweather jr fans...im talking hardcore..the ones who want the big fights to be made who get sick of seeing cory spink fight for titles who wanna see fights! ..not low blow security gaurd tempertantrum drama queens... i dont understand...he stands to make one of his biggest pay days just to fight a suposed nobody who could pose absaulutly zero threat...bladimer would be killed by margarito so would spinks be ..

        so why is mayweather going after them when he needs to fight margarito ..its an easy fight right? ...its sooo easy those big looping punches it'd be worst then the gatti fight... and he'd make a ton! ...the dude who said "whats 8 million" needs to get a copy of what floyd normally makes...

        ****er had to go into gattis back yard just to make a buck...

        i think he should just stop ****ing around...whoop this punk ass mofos ass send him back to where he come from...shut arum up ..then hand oscars ass too him ...kick the **** out of wright and call it a mother ****ing day! he'd be undeafeated and a living legend.... he'd be young...still have his head on his shoulders..have plenty of bills.. have plenty of fans...he'd be another one of the illustrialst undeafeated club ..

        WHY THE **** IS HE MESSING AROUND WITH BALDI AND SPINKS ...

        i dont even wanna hear mosleys name mentioned...mayweather would school his old ass and you guys would ****in ephixiate all over yourselves knowing damn well mosleys been boxing since floyd mayweather was in ****in highschool

        this guy needs to get er done if he wants to go out undeafeated..
        Because whether we like it or not... Baldomir is the champion of the division. Plenty of people think that Floyd needs to rule the divisions he fights in before moving on. He hasn't beaten the recognized champ at 140 or 147 so Baldomir solves that problem. After that I would love to see him figh Margarito. And I didn't say what is 8 million, I said why take 8 today when it could be 10 next year or in a year and a half. If Arum is willing to put up 8 now when only hardcore boxing fans know about this then imagine how much it will be worth after Floyd fights DLH and Mosley and starts opening his mouth. You mention Gatti... but the reason Floyd wanted and took the Gatti fight was for exposure and $. Gatti had something he wanted...proven PPV success. Margarito doesn't offer any exposure or fan base. His fans will hate Floyd win, lose, or draw so I don't think this is the same type of situation.

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          #34
          Oh and I would rather die than order a PPV Mayweather-Spinks...totally agree with you there. And no I don't think Mayweather-Baldomir is a good fight... it is a necessary evil (like the Gatti fight).

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            #35
            Originally posted by joeytrimble
            he made 5 million plus gate to fight judah...this fight would be huge as just about every hardcore boxing fan wants it... no not floyd mayweather jr fans...im talking hardcore..the ones who want the big fights to be made who get sick of seeing cory spink fight for titles who wanna see fights! ..not low blow security gaurd tempertantrum drama queens... i dont understand...he stands to make one of his biggest pay days just to fight a suposed nobody who could pose absaulutly zero threat...bladimer would be killed by margarito so would spinks be ..

            so why is mayweather going after them when he needs to fight margarito ..its an easy fight right? ...its sooo easy those big looping punches it'd be worst then the gatti fight... and he'd make a ton! ...the dude who said "whats 8 million" needs to get a copy of what floyd normally makes...

            ****er had to go into gattis back yard just to make a buck...

            i think he should just stop ****ing around...whoop this punk ass mofos ass send him back to where he come from...shut arum up ..then hand oscars ass too him ...kick the **** out of wright and call it a mother ****ing day! he'd be undeafeated and a living legend.... he'd be young...still have his head on his shoulders..have plenty of bills.. have plenty of fans...he'd be another one of the illustrialst undeafeated club ..

            WHY THE **** IS HE MESSING AROUND WITH BALDI AND SPINKS ...

            i dont even wanna hear mosleys name mentioned...mayweather would school his old ass and you guys would ****in ephixiate all over yourselves knowing damn well mosleys been boxing since floyd mayweather was in ****in highschool

            this guy needs to get er done if he wants to go out undeafeated..
            You said it perfectly. "Hardcore fans" are the ones who want to see this fight. The real money is made by attracting casual fans. That is something Margarito does not bring to the table. Most hardcore fans didn't want to see Judah-Mayweather, but it did like 350k buys. Why? Because the fight attracted casual fans. As strange as it may seem, people know who Judah is especially in the NYC area.

            Also, Mayweather has basically said if he's going to lose a fight it's going to be against someone who's popular and has established his reputation. That's why he has no problem calling out DLH, Mosley, etc. Losing to Margarito would really hurt PBF's status among the casual fans because he'd be losing to an unaccomplished unknown. PBF tries to play off Margarito as a non-threat, but he knows the guy is a good fighter. That's why he's not worth the risk. Not even for 8 million...

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              #36
              Originally posted by SiN
              As strange as it may seem, people know who Judah is especially in the NYC area.

              I can speak personally and say even here on the west coast that fight had huge intrest in the black community.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Black Jesus
                I can speak personally and say even here on the west coast that fight had huge interest in the black community.
                Add to that its huge interest from the Hip Hop/Black Athlete [nfl,nba] community.

                BTW, you mind helping me out with some premier league sleepers this year? My knowledge of soccer is infantile but I've joined a fantasy league and need some players who'll come cheap.

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                • joeytrimble
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                  #38
                  nobody wants to see ****ing baldi fight ****ing mayweather...who wants to watch a slow pastery ****ing stroodle get beatin to a bloody pulp! ..at least margarito can ****in hit!

                  you guys are peropusly not wanting this fight because you are indeed scared of the risk it brings...everything is in the open ..mayweather could take it win it with ease and go about his way but no we're gonna try to clear out the division "WHICH HE HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE!" ..so why do it now when a big mega fight with margarito lies ahead in wait..

                  you know damn well baldi wont bring the money a margarito fight will

                  go outside and play now schools out

                  if your gonna warship a fighter at least have the balls to say if your afraid if he fights A or B ... dont be a ***** about it guys

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by joeytrimble
                    nobody wants to see ****ing baldi fight ****ing mayweather...who wants to watch a slow pastery ****ing stroodle get beatin to a bloody pulp! ..at least margarito can ****in hit!

                    you guys are peropusly not wanting this fight because you are indeed scared of the risk it brings...everything is in the open ..mayweather could take it win it with ease and go about his way but no we're gonna try to clear out the division "WHICH HE HAS NEVER DONE BEFORE!" ..so why do it now when a big mega fight with margarito lies ahead in wait..

                    you know damn well baldi wont bring the money a margarito fight will

                    go outside and play now schools out

                    if your gonna warship a fighter at least have the balls to say if your afraid if he fights A or B ... dont be a ***** about it guys
                    You've oversimplified the belt situation entirely. Floyd has never been the undisputed champ at any weight but he won't be if he beats Baldomir either... Margarito will still hold a title. But Floyd hasn't held a LEGITIMATE title since 135 which he will if he beats Baldomir. Simple as that. And read my posts before you accuse me of worship, Floyd and Margarito can fight any time in the next 2 years and both still be at their primes. Baldomir is at the end of his career as are DLH and Mosley. Don't worry as a fight fan I want to see Margarito-Mayweather and am confident it will happen. You can't deny that a Mayweather that beat DLH and Mosley will get a much bigger PPV if he fights Margarito than he will now. Bottom line why fight now for 8 when you can fight now for 5 (against Baldomir and gain a recognized title whereas if you fight Margarito now the title probably splinters) and later for 10 or more (against Margarito). WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE NOW?

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                      #40
                      Obviously part of the reason is risk-reward analysis. I am not saying Margarito isn't worthy or it wouldn't be a decent fight. Simply Floyd doesn't think this is the move that will best add to his legacy and bank account and I can see why.

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